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CBS News 2016 Battleground Tracker Pennsylvania
CBS News ^ | 10/30/16 | CBS News

Posted on 10/30/2016 7:15:15 AM PDT by Redmen4ever

Hillary Clinton 48 Donald Trump 40 Gary Johnson 5 Jill Sein 2

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2016polls; 2016swingstates; cbsyougov; pa2016; pennsylvania
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I post this poll because the CBS version of YouGov differs enormously from the YouGov version of YouGov.

In the YouGov election model, Pennsylvania is essentially tied, with Trump having an insignificant 0.1 percentage point lead over Clinton, 46.6 to 46.5 percent.

https://today.yougov.com/us-election/?state=Pennsylvania

But, CBS, working with essentially the same data, turns Pennsylvania blue by 8 points.

Que Pasa?

CBS/YouGov polls for Colorado and North Carolina, on the other hand, look similar to the YouGov model. With fast moving developments, uncertainties concerning turnout, and favorable statistics concerning early voting in North Carolina, the only conclusion is that the election in each of these state is close.

1 posted on 10/30/2016 7:15:15 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Redmen4ever

No one buys this crap. Trump is winning in PA.


2 posted on 10/30/2016 7:16:20 AM PDT by GregBo
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To: Redmen4ever

It looks like the Clinton Broadcasting System is still holding out hope for Hillary.


3 posted on 10/30/2016 7:16:51 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: GregBo

No one buys this crap. Trump is winning in PA.

I don’t know but if Trump wins PA, it’s over for Hillary.


4 posted on 10/30/2016 7:17:24 AM PDT by boycott (S)
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To: Redmen4ever

The media will go all out to attempt to assure that Pa does not go to Trump. That is their last firewall and if Trump takes PA, the election will be over before the polls close in Ca.


5 posted on 10/30/2016 7:17:32 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: Redmen4ever

Absolutely baffling why anyone in Penn. would vote for the Clinton crime family. She blatantly said she will destroy the Penn. economy, no coal mines, no steel mills, more regulations, more EPA totalitarianism, yeah real good for the state.


6 posted on 10/30/2016 7:18:24 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon.)
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To: Redmen4ever

Dem oversampling? Indie undersampling? both?

CC


7 posted on 10/30/2016 7:18:32 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: Redmen4ever

I’ve had Dem canvassers come to my door twice in the last three days. That does not sound like a party that has confidence they have PA in the bag.


8 posted on 10/30/2016 7:18:52 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: GregBo

The LSM is doubling down no matter what the majority of the people believe. They’re targeting that tiny minority of people that still believe whatever comes out of the media.


9 posted on 10/30/2016 7:19:03 AM PDT by uncitizen (Drain.The.Swamp!)
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To: Redmen4ever

I think it’s a foregone conclusion that Trump wins former battleground states OH, FL, and NC. But, he needs something else.

PA would seal the deal, but everyone had him behind and closing until the recent YouGov poll and recent events. If the MSM is to hold the line on the idea that he can’t breach Hillary’s firewall of big liberal states, you’d expect some of the last poll manipulations to occur in places like PA, CO, MI, WI, etc.

I drove from Tennessee to New England, and I can tell you that in PA I saw exclusively Trump signs. But, I was either on the highway or on secondary roads; I wasn’t in the cities, where the Dems are clustered. Still, it was a hopeful sign.


10 posted on 10/30/2016 7:19:05 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Redmen4ever

Is the sampling info available?


11 posted on 10/30/2016 7:19:32 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Mouton

Well that would be a landslide, if we have a decision before the west coast polls close.

Imagine all the liberal snarky news people announcing that Trump has won. Imagine them having to announce it so early in the evening. That would give them lots of airtime on election night to fill, as they dissect elections results and exit polls and such.


12 posted on 10/30/2016 7:20:38 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Redmen4ever

Unbelievable.

Look at the details. Question 27; 38% strongly Democrat or Lean Democrat; 26% strong GOP or lean GOP! +12 Dem!

Gee, a CBS poll. Shocked it is heavily weighted Dem!

2012 Democrat advantage was 5.4%. Numerous articles about the shift to GOP the last year or so. Still, they use +12 Dem. Shameless.


13 posted on 10/30/2016 7:22:08 AM PDT by dan on the right
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Absolutely baffling why anyone in Penn. would vote for the Clinton crime family. She blatantly said she will destroy the Penn. economy, no coal mines, no steel mills,

Because of Philly districts that vote 100% Dem and because of suburban twits who think electricity is generated by unicorn farts.

14 posted on 10/30/2016 7:22:29 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: Redmen4ever

“I post this poll because the CBS version of YouGov differs enormously from the YouGov version of YouGov. “

The only question is why you decided to post the SeeBS poll instead of the YouGov poll which has a much better track record.


15 posted on 10/30/2016 7:22:48 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: Nevadan

Perhaps there is a way to find out some more about the poll that is referenced in the link to the poll.


16 posted on 10/30/2016 7:23:11 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Redmen4ever

They’re pumping out a lot of “pre FBI reopens investigation” polls today!

Still, most of them show her slipping.


17 posted on 10/30/2016 7:25:42 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

This is the news item I hope to hear on election night:

“Our decision desk has determined the 45th president will be Donald Trump. Meanwhile, no one can locate Hillery Clinton as she was last seen headed to Dulles Airport sans her secret service protection. The FAA has grounded all flights from Dulles”


18 posted on 10/30/2016 7:26:04 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

It all depends on turnout. Will blacks turn out in record numbers in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh (particularly Philadelphia!) like they did for Zero in 2008 & 2012 or will it fall back to historic levels? Will rural & semi-rural blue collar residents turn out in record numbers, particularly those who have felt so marginalized that they have given up on voting?

Also for the blacks that do vote, has Trump eroded the normal lockstep numbers that vote Rat?


19 posted on 10/30/2016 7:28:17 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Redmen4ever

Yeah, the YouGov prediction currently has Hillary ahead by about one state and shows her downward trend.
https://today.yougov.com/us-election/

Used to like YouGov before they partnered with HuffPost and the like.


20 posted on 10/30/2016 7:31:42 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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