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Overnight Healthcare: (Gruber) Calls for stiffer ObamaCare penalties
The Hill ^ | 10/26/16 | Sarah Ferris

Posted on 10/29/2016 4:20:31 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: HiTech RedNeck

Neglecting the lions about to eat us has fatal consequences


41 posted on 10/29/2016 5:37:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hilary is an Ameriphobe)
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To: Libloather

Obamacare???? Phase 1 of national health care with single payer system.

This is a plan. Make it so bad that the great unwashed will beg for single payer and the Obama/Hitlery conglomerate will gladly provide it.

We must VOTE IN TRUMP. For this, the Supreme Court, to stop terror and to send illegals packing.


42 posted on 10/29/2016 5:39:16 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: bert

False dichotomy


43 posted on 10/29/2016 5:42:50 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: bert

Because a second set of lions can eat us from the inside.


44 posted on 10/29/2016 5:43:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Libloather

Trump VS Hillary health care plans
http://kff.org/report-section/snapshot-of-where-hillary-clinton-and-donald-trump-stand-on-seven-health-care-issues-side-by-side/?gclid=CjwKEAjw7svABRCi_KPzoPr53QoSJAABSvxfErg8PtruOox8HU9VNq-H97y0-b5Zg8CaLleZznqEchoC0h3w_wcB

I’d rather have Trumps.


45 posted on 10/29/2016 5:53:31 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: A politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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To: GailA

It would be difficult for Donald Trump to come up with something that would be WORSE than Obamacare.


46 posted on 10/29/2016 5:57:01 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Libloather
"I think probably the most important thing experts would agree is we need a larger mandate penalty," Gruber said

No communist or Nazi could have said it better.

47 posted on 10/29/2016 5:58:42 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Doogle
....wish someone would kick the dog snot out of him

Not yet. I listened to Trump last night and he talked quite a bit about Gruber and Gruber's lies. The more Gruber talks about higher penalties, the better it is for us.

48 posted on 10/29/2016 5:58:57 AM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: Libloather

Why does anyone listen to this Gruber guy? For a guy with no power and a big mouth, he’s done severe damage to the healthcare system.


49 posted on 10/29/2016 6:12:13 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: xzins

Yep, I paid the penalty the first year, have had insurance the past 2 years and never met my deductible (got $0 in co-pays). I’m better off paying out of pocket, by far.


50 posted on 10/29/2016 6:13:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (A rigged debate is a rigged election. More was made of the "Twenty-One" gameshow scandal.)
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To: exDemMom

A lot of voters actually believed it would be great. I spoke to some who actually thought that, “Everyone will have FREE healthcare.” When I told them what would actually happen is that eventually NO one but the elite few would have any REAL healthcare at all they thought I was crazy.


51 posted on 10/29/2016 6:13:48 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: Libloather

ObamaCare doesn’t really give much to people in the way of choice. And this insanity of increasing penalties on the taxpayer to prop up a failing program the American people never really wanted is the height of stupidity.


52 posted on 10/29/2016 6:14:30 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Libloather

Apparently that’s what they teach in the economics department!


53 posted on 10/29/2016 6:49:42 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Libloather

Somebody should make a cartoon of a drowning woman being dragged down by an “ObamaCare” octopus (we all can name the arms) with Gruber in a small boat (label possibilities there too), whacking her over the head with a club named “bigger penalties”.


54 posted on 10/29/2016 6:53:50 AM PDT by Paul R.
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To: Libloather; All

The only solution is to abandon the ACA enmasse and boycott the Heathcare Insurance company Racketeering that wrote Obolacare.

A Medical Cost Sharing ministry model is a sound affordable option.
I looked exhaustively at Liberty, Samaritan, MCS, Medi-share, and Christian Health.

Liberty won as the superior choice.

They completely check out clean with BBB, Ripoff Report and Attorney General complaint searches.

They were founded over 20 years ago, have grown to 70,000 enrollees, undergo annual independent financial audits, and are soundly funded, spending less than 12% for administrative overhead.

Personally called three individuals, including managers and they answered on the second ring.
Every customer service rep and the manager sounded like Ned Flanders family members. So congenial I was expecting them to ask me over for church dinner & coffee and.

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Full reimbursement foreign country Healthcare expenses.
20 PT visits per year.
Annual full physical including favorite procedures, colonoscope and prostate ;n)
No mental health coverage, or abortion, transsexual ‘transition’.
They work with hospital and doctor office for billing.
No church pastor written attestation.

Abandon inferior defective gov’t ACA and health insurance companies that collaborated to bring us to our current miserable state!

Real deal
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https://www.libertyhealthshare.org/
https://www.libertyhealthshare.org/3-program-options
https://www.libertyhealthshare.org/how-reimbursement-works


55 posted on 10/29/2016 7:38:41 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Libloather

Once again ObamaCare is revealed to be a tax and not a health care system. A tax that can be raise at the whim of the executive, unconstitutional.


56 posted on 10/29/2016 7:58:31 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: jsanders2001

*** “He’s already started his descent” ***

May his descent continue 6’ past the turf


57 posted on 10/29/2016 1:07:06 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: Libloather

A higher penalty wouldn’t help — people would discover that the only way the IRS could collect that penalty is to seize it from your tax refund. That’s easy - just underpay by 5%, never have to pay the penalty.

The law prohibits the IRS from using their usual collection procedures to collect the ACA fine/tax/penalty.


58 posted on 10/29/2016 9:28:31 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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