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So you go and vote for the next President, but you know this guy is only in Utah, so why the hell do these people not understand that a vote for him is a vote for Clinton?

My grandmother likes this guy. She thinks if he can put the election into the House of Representatives they'll choose McMullin to be President.

I had to explain that since the establishment GOP hates Trump and the House is run by GOPe stooge Paul Ryan, putting it into the House guarantees HRC becomes the president. Further, I explained that having the presidency decided by the House is a great way to move us towards an honest to God, no s###, civil war. Whoever loses in the house, that side will believe they were cheated. It doesn't matter that the law was followed...it will matter how people feel about it, and that is the basis on which they will proceed.

She doesn't get it. She thinks it's a grevious sin to vote for the lesser of two evils when both evils are significant, and she doesn't think she can justify a vote for Trump in front of God. For myself, *I* don't want to be the one trying to explain to God why I didn't do the best I was able to stop the most radically pro-abortion, pro-infanticide American presidential candidate in history. But that's just me.

Some people cannot be made to understand.

My Mother in law is s Dem, thankfully lives in MA where her vote does not really matter, but she calls herself Catholic, and still votes for this woman.

Some people are way beyond stupid and ignorant.
Ask her should illegals be legal, should illegals get welfare, should a baby be killed a day before it is born, should two men marry, should muslims come over not vetted and the answer is always no.
Yet she still votes for all of it.

Like I said thankfully she is nowhere near me, and her vote is void up in MA.

Maybe you could explain to your grandmother that G-d has used some fairly flawed, even evil, people for His purposes.

Here we have a man who is very morally flawed, yet who wants to:

1) preserve the First Amendment rights we all enjoy - ALL of them;

2) to revise our trade, tax and regulatory policies to let our economy provide more jobs for people (isn’t THAT the best form of charity);

3) to strengthen this nation (to make a war less likely - that seems like a pretty good thing to me); and

4) to make us less dependent upon foreign countries (including and especially Moslem ones, who finance terrorism) for our energy resources.

Again, he’s very flawed, very far from perfect. But these things are objectively GOOD...and the other person, the known thief and liar, is not interested in doing any of those things (quite the opposite, in fact). That other person is in favor of abortion, including late-term abortions where the baby could easily survive outside fo the womb.

Ask your grandmother if she’s thought about those things, and whether she wants to be partially responsible for allowing the likes of Hillary Clinton to have vast power and influence.

Just my $0.02.