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To: flamberge

Well I disagree.

I understand I am in the minority on this issue. I thank the site operator for not banishing me, for saying so. I completely agree with everything the GOP stands for, and I am extremely supportive of every single issue which Donald Trump has stood for.

Except this one. I think we need to simply provide care, to everyone.

The dems had the right idea on this. It is not a good system, but we had none.

None.

Again I understand I am stating a minority opinion here on FR, and I appreciate the site owner’s not zotting me so far, for saying my opinion.

He does not agree with me. I will shut up now, and not risk what that means. I have said my opinion. I will now not say more.

But we have done NOTHING.


29 posted on 10/26/2016 10:03:54 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

***It is not a good system, but we had none.***

Bullcr*p

The system we had was set up to benefit the insurance companies because it was illegal to buy insurance across state lines. Just making all insurance competitive and legal for purchase anywhere would go a long way to making insurance companies have to treat customers much better and with lower rates.


33 posted on 10/26/2016 10:11:15 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: cba123

“I think we need to simply provide care, to everyone.”

I will go one better. I think we need to simply insist that everyone be healthy and never need care.

Both of our proposals are unworkable for the same reason.


34 posted on 10/26/2016 10:15:30 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: cba123; flamberge
If you really want follow-on measures you could also repeal the Drug Re-importation Acts and the price-fixing that they enable. Prescription medicines that are made in America and retail for $300 per unit here are exported and can be purchased in Europe and Asia for $20-$60 per unit. And many such items are non-prescription over there. But you are not allowed to bring them back into this country. That's a racket that must be stopped.

Existing Anti-Trust laws apply to the entire Health Care Industry. They must be enforced. And executives who violate those laws must be jailed.

Pricing for medical procedures must be posted before service and must be the same price for everybody. That is actually what existing "Consumer Protection" laws require. Let's enforce them.

Insurance companies commonly get 50% or greater discounts on billing, simply by stalling the providers for payment. Such discounts are not available to patients who pay cash. This is insane - and also illegal discriminatory pricing.

What is wrong with flamberge's suggestions?

What was so terribly wrong with health care back in the '60's (beyond, perhaps, some poor people not knowing where to go for financial help, which was then relatively inexpensive for charities and so on to give)?

I'll add 4 more suggestion: Graduate a lot more doctors, effect reasonable tort reform, greatly expand MSA's, and somehow get the providers to "get with it" regarding medical records. My Dad was recently first in the local hospital's ER, and then admitted for continued treatment & tests. I went through the "interview" process of supplying my Dad's medical history FOUR times. WTF?!! For one thing, once the hospital had that history the 1st time, do they not have networked computers? Even worse, I had supplied the name & office of my Dad's PCP, who of course has far better / more detailed information. Once I give permission for my Dr. to release my Dad's information (I have POA for Health for my Dad), why in God's name should it take more than 2 minutes for the hospital to obtain my Dad's full records?

I almost felt like "Bones" in Star Trek 4, disparaging the medieval records technology (only slightly countered by the cool Trek-like thermometer they could just wave over my Dad's forehead.)

38 posted on 10/26/2016 10:51:53 PM PDT by Paul R.
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To: cba123

Look kid; just go back to Canada or England or Sweden or France and wait in line for their state provided health care.
I am pretty sure you don’t have to worry about prostate cancer, but when the lung cancer kills you from all that youthful dope smoking while your waiting in line, just remember THE HEALTH CARE IS FREEEEE.


44 posted on 10/26/2016 11:48:41 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: cba123
The dems had the right idea on this.

Incorrect.

It is not a good system, but we had none.

Also incorrect.

We had a system where the majority of people had health insurance (which is quite different from health care) and those that did not had various government and charity options.

The system actually worked.

Now we have a system where less and less people have health insurance that covers less and less, charities are being forced not to help and the various government programs are FUBAR.

54 posted on 10/27/2016 2:26:52 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles!)
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To: cba123

We do provide care for everyone. No one seeking care is turned away from a hospital.

Don’t make the mistake of equating health “care” to health “insurance”. They are two different animals.


73 posted on 10/27/2016 6:17:26 AM PDT by randita
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