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To: Jess Kitting

I think you will see this for sure.

OBAMA WILL ISSUE HILLARY A FULL PARDON BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE. IT WILL BE SWEEPING AND UNCONDITIONAL. IT WILL NOT MATTER IF SHE WINS OR LOSES THE WH.

I’m not saying doing this is right or wrong, but when Ford pardoned Nixon, before any indictment I might add, he did so to avoid our country going through a divisive period.

Obama will do the same thing, and might even craft it in the same way Ford did.


13 posted on 10/23/2016 5:02:04 AM PDT by nikos1121 (I am way more deplorable than you.)
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To: nikos1121

Hussein pardoning Roberts would ge a fitting final insult from The W0n.


16 posted on 10/23/2016 5:06:36 AM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: nikos1121
OBAMA WILL ISSUE HILLARY A FULL PARDON BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE.

I expect it. But the idiot in chief will have to go much further. With the current evidence, Bill Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, Cheryl(sp) Mills, Loretta Lynch, Director Comey, John Podesta and dozens of others at the White House and State Department along with those associated with the Clinton Global Initiative and Clinton Foundation are subject to indictment and convictions.

Methinks that that the Crintons are crates of cans of worms.

21 posted on 10/23/2016 5:12:52 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Enforce the Law. Build the Wall.)
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To: nikos1121

Can’t pardon her. She hadn’t been convicted. Hush


25 posted on 10/23/2016 5:16:58 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: nikos1121

Like OJ got away with murder, the pardons if it happens will only delay catching them down the line at some point. All roads lead to jail


26 posted on 10/23/2016 5:17:56 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: nikos1121

I’ve been preaching that message for a very long time. Hillary is not going to jail, neither will she even be charged for any of this mess.

But............ once a criminal, always a criminal. That vile woman will continue, committing new crimes, after the pardon. Then Trump can fry her evil ass.


30 posted on 10/23/2016 5:21:50 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: nikos1121

POTUS can pardon people for federal crimes only. With all the crap she has pulled, there must be some state laws she has broken.


35 posted on 10/23/2016 5:39:04 AM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: nikos1121
OBAMA WILL ISSUE HILLARY A FULL PARDON BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE. IT WILL BE SWEEPING AND UNCONDITIONAL. IT WILL NOT MATTER IF SHE WINS OR LOSES THE WH.

And Trump should deliberately ignore it and prosecute her anyway. Argue it was an intentional effort by Obama to cover up his own culpability and therefore invalid.

43 posted on 10/23/2016 5:59:49 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: nikos1121

Absent conviction, the pardon is meaningless.

I know, I know, Nixon. Fallacious analogy. The pardon was never challenged. It was invalid


48 posted on 10/23/2016 6:03:30 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hilary is an Ameriphobe)
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To: nikos1121

Can a pardon by one president be rescinded by another?


53 posted on 10/23/2016 6:16:46 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump is running against EVERYONE. The Democrats, The Media, and the establishment GOP)
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To: nikos1121

Can a pardon by one president be rescinded by another?


54 posted on 10/23/2016 6:16:47 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump is running against EVERYONE. The Democrats, The Media, and the establishment GOP)
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To: nikos1121

“OBAMA WILL ISSUE HILLARY A FULL PARDON BEFORE HE LEAVES OFFICE. IT WILL BE SWEEPING AND UNCONDITIONAL.”

In the end it won’t matter. Her health is deteriorating rapidly which is a prison sentence in an of its self.

There’s always bubba to go after legally, too.


55 posted on 10/23/2016 6:17:06 AM PDT by Rebelbase (DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: nikos1121

Here is where it gets tricky for H. Remember the cops the beat Rodney King?

Same situation. Her Thighness won’t be exempt from civil action taken by people beaten in Chicago. Someone with a paper cut from that violence could sue her for a $Billion and a jury will award it. So, while I exaggerate a bit, my point is Zero can only protect her for so long and only so much.

Then there are the history books. The Zero chapter is not finished until WE say it is.


57 posted on 10/23/2016 6:22:50 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: nikos1121

I’ve been thinking about this a couple days... TRUMP should announce that if he wins he will give Hillary a full pardon.

This will accomplish several things...

makes Trump look like the alpha and her lesser than he
reassures fence voters that she will not be persecuted
make it look like he is putting the country ahead of politics
helps him with women voters.


68 posted on 10/23/2016 7:13:59 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is..." - Milton)
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To: nikos1121

Ford’s pardon of Nixon was highly unusual in that no conviction for a crime had been delivered and no formal charges had been levied.

The Constitution allows a President to grant “Reprieves or Pardons for Offences against the United States” except in cases of Impeachment. Both require a conviction, in my reading of the definitions for both. Pardon for a penalty imposed and Reprieve for a penalty about to be imposed.

I believe Nixon’s “pardon” would not have withstood a legal challenge, since no crime had been charged nor conviction reached. But the country was tired of the whole Nixon affair and wanted it all put behind us,

I don’t think Obummer is able to pardon Hillary (or Lynch or Comey or Eric Holder, et al) because none have been charged with anything. It may take some (sorely lacking) Congressional spine to reject such a pardon but I think it could be done. And I don’t think the Supreme Court would dare try their “we are the final arbiters of the Constitution” crap if Congress took the ball first and ran with it.

I’m no lawyer but I believe President Trump could sweep aside any “pardon from suspicion” and proceed with prosecutions that are so richly deserved.


81 posted on 10/23/2016 8:00:30 AM PDT by DNME (This is the tyranny that the Founders warned us about.)
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To: nikos1121

Obama couldn’t pardon Clinton because the language of the pardon would have to be so broad as to be ridiculous.


82 posted on 10/23/2016 8:14:14 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: nikos1121
to avoid our country going through a divisive period.

It's a little late for that.

87 posted on 10/23/2016 9:07:28 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs......same thing.)
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