Posted on 10/19/2016 5:51:29 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
Well, ya can’t say it’s not a good looking plane.
I will bet anything that the cost to build it is a fraction of the F-22 and F-35.
No thrust vectoring I see.
Especially if you have slave labor available...
They saved a ton of money by starting off with the blueprints for both those planes.
That is a fine looking plane. Darn. They have been so well known for putting out aircraft that looked like dogs to me, I thought I would be able to hang my hat on that, at least.
No dice on this one!
Engines appear to be home-grown. Cost is still pretty high, but they have the money to spend, apparently.
I won’t underestimate newer Chinese hardware, but I don’t have much respect for their operations end of things, from what I have been able to tell.
When they can build 10-20 of those at the same cost as one of our F-22’s or F-35’s they overcome some technological disadvantages with sheer numbers.
I had heard the cost was comparable...these are very low production rate planes, apparently.
Loks like a Saab Gripen and an F22 got together and started a family.
CC
“Heard the cost was comparable”??? Don’t know where that came from. The Chinese never disclose that kind of information. When you consider they probably stole most of the design and have very low Production costs, the idea that their cost would be comparable is wishful thinking is not ludicrous. That’s like saying the cost of maintaining and equipping one Chinese Soldier is comparable to maintaining and equipping one of ours. They also build Submarines and other ships for a fraction of the cost of ours. Our Bid, R&D and Production costs are so ridiculously high that any comparison with the Chinese would be fantasy. Take it from me, I used to be in that “Racket”.
1. I doubt the chicoms have labor unions, which drive up the costs enormously with much, much higher wages;
2. They don't have greedy corporations (Lockheed-Martin) that put corporate profits and huge executive bonuses ahead of national interests;
3. The cost of "Wining and Dining" crooked politicians there is probably not a much as here (just a guess).
They also can use the interest we pay them on our debt which they hold. Also, I am NOT going to advocate “Slave Labor”, but history shows us that a lot of armies are built on slave labor or forced conscription. It helps to provide strength in numbers.
Yeah, I hear you. But if the production run is very small (or not disclosed) I would imagine the cost per unit will be far higher, so it didn’t strike me the same way it did you..I would defer to you on this, though.
Very impressive looking, but like a Chinese tool, how long will it hold up? Ever try to put in or remove a Chinese Philips screw with an American made screw driver?
Big weapons bay.
I wonder what sort of anti-ship missiles will fit in there?
>3. The cost of “Wining and Dining” crooked politicians there is probably not a much as here (just a guess).
Actually the PRC is quite corrupt. Nothing gets done there without juice
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_China
Talk about saving money, I'll bet they built them in China, too!
I guess the argument of Quality versus Quantity should be referred to Veterans of the 1st Cavalry Division who were in the Chosen Reservoir during the Korean War when the Chinese Army came across the Yalu River.
They finally used the correct plywood.
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