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To: seastay
In the first place, the Bush emails being sought concerned a question about whether the firings of some US Attorneys were politically motivated, hence the involvement of the RNC.

Second, the requests for emails were improper in the first place: The President has plenary power to fire US attorneys and does not have to justify to Congress or anyone else why he has done so. Bush should have simply told Congress to bugger off. Bill Clinton demanded the resignation of EVERY US Attorney on the day he took office. So the demand for the communications was the usual double standard.

Third, the question of interest to Congress was whether the firings had been politically motivated; that is why they involved demands of email on unsecured servers. The President's political business -- as opposed to official US government business -- is not required by law, executive order, or even government policy to be conducted on secure servers. In fact, political consultations have never been conducted via government systems, and most government workers consider it unethical to do so, and depending on the nature of their work and the type of politics involved, it may even be illegal.

Fourth, again, whether or not the President's decision to fire some US attorneys was grounded in political considerations or not, there is nothing unethical about that. What Bush should have told Congress was to go f**k themselves, and he should have reminded the press not only of his legitimate, lawful authority, but of what Bill Clinton had done eight years before. But he was doing the New-Tone-Two-Step.

Fifth, there was no classified material involved.

Sixth, we actually do NOT know how many of Clinton's emails involved classified material. There were 110 classified documents simply in the emails the FBI was able to recover.

But note that the FBI did not really make any serious effort to recover documents, and tens of thousands of them have still never been recovered.

Given that Hillary®! exclusively used a private server for all of her business, the number of actually classified documents is more likely in the thousands.

Seventh: your friends are morons if they think it's OK to compromise US national security "just a little." If you've ever been in the military or intelligence organizations, or done classified work for DOJ, you will know that a great deal of our classified material is compartmentalized. Many people in that position have had the experience of discovering -- years later -- that they "heard something about something going on somewhere" that later turned out to be the testing location or plans for the Stealth Bomber, the location of a CIA listening station, the identity of a US agent, foreign mole asset, or what have you.

Our enemies already have access to many of our secrets. By gaining additional intel on just a few bits of information, they may be able to put together a very large picture. And that is very dangerous for your country.

There have even been cases where the classified material, while of little value of itself, was believed used to crack US encryption when the compromised material "in the clear" was compared with intercepted codes.

Eighth, Bush did not use a server to "collect bribes." What the hell are you even talking about?

Finally, let's be clear about something that your idiot friends don't seem to get, and which neither Trump nor the Republicans in Congress have hammered home anywhere near hard enough: The most charitable interpretation of Hillary Clinton's most recent crimes is that she was "extremely careless." She was not "extremely careless" with pieces of paper, or electrons, or even with some kind of abstract matter or concepts. She was not "extremely careless" with cookie recipes or yoga postures.

She was extremely careless with US National Security, and that means she was "extremely careless" with people's lives. If you've got a son in the military, she was careless with his life. If your daughter or your husband is working for consular operations or in a CIA station she was careless with their lives. If you're just a civilian sitting at a desk minding your own business selling insurance policies, she was potentially careless with your life.

Tell that to your dumbass friends.

55 posted on 10/11/2016 8:48:55 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

“Bill Clinton demanded the resignation of EVERY US Attorney on the day he took office.”

Not true. He kept one on.

Michael Chertoff.


61 posted on 10/11/2016 8:59:52 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: FredZarguna; seastay
Oh, and while we're discussing the talking points making the rounds, Hillary!® and her minions, flunkies, and stooges are out there saying "the FBI says the server was never compromised," or "The FBI said there was no evidence the server was compromised."

That is 100%, manifest crap.

Our best intelligence agencies have been hacked. Some third rate ISP/email service with known classified material was an absolute sitting duck, and I can tell you, with almost 40 years experience in information technology, coding, and system security, if the best hackers in the world went after this server and did not want to be discovered, the FBI itself would never be able to detect it. And this is doubly true when you consider how thoroughly they scrubbed this server. These boxes were formatted down to the metal, random bitmap erased, and everything was reinstalled.

The FBI's claim that they found no trace of hacking is a completely vacuous assertion designed to simultaneously cover their own sorry asses and Hillary!'s® as well.

62 posted on 10/11/2016 9:02:59 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

And you might add that NOT ONE of the tens of thousands of recovered emails was about yoga, Chelsea’s wedding or Mrs Rodham’s funeral. NOT ONE!


66 posted on 10/11/2016 9:18:46 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: FredZarguna

Great reply!


74 posted on 10/11/2016 9:48:32 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: FredZarguna

thanks for the extensive recapitulation.


85 posted on 10/12/2016 4:54:47 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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