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The Internet Takeover Is Happening
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| Stefan Molyneux
Posted on 09/30/2016 8:08:39 PM PDT by Voluntaryist
10 minute video from Stefan Molyneux
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KEYWORDS: algore; bigfoot; bushdid911; ebola; freespeech; globalism; goatman; icann; internet; muchadoaboutnothing; swineflu; takeover; ufos; y2k
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To: Voluntaryist
Obama wants to head up the UN after he leaves office, this must have been the price. As Trump said today, someone is benefitting from this.
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posted on
09/30/2016 8:43:52 PM PDT
by
Kenny
To: Voluntaryist
The Internet is and always has been a decentralized topology. When a data packet needs to go from San Diego to Seattle it doesn’t go through Washington D. C. on the way. Some functions are by necessity hierarchical like DNS.
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posted on
09/30/2016 8:44:52 PM PDT
by
steve86
(Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
To: Voluntaryist
Your centralized diagram does not describe the current Internet in terms of data paths.
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posted on
09/30/2016 8:47:03 PM PDT
by
steve86
(Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
To: madison10
It means when you communicate with say FreeRepublic.com, you’d connect directly to this site from where you are vs connecting to something in between FreeRepublic and where you are, which is how it works now.
PS - I don’t want to come off as a chicken little (the sky is falling) quite yet, but in the meantime I would record numerical IP addresses of websites you visit. For example this site is 209.157.64.200
With the handover of ICANN, my first concern would be the potential for ICANN to strip websites of their names and leave them only with their stripped IP address. This could obviously cause a lot of confusion for people who aren’t aware.
To: Voluntaryist
You sat on your ass voting for it.
Now you pay. :)
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posted on
09/30/2016 8:48:10 PM PDT
by
Tzimisce
To: steve86
You’re correct, and as mentioned, it’s difficult for me to put into words. I’m in no way shape or form trying to act like I know that much about this stuff. In fact I just started reading about it all a few weeks ago. That said, I’ve read information that presents ways for connections to not have to travel through ISP servers. This is why I included corporations after government.
To: steve86
Please feel free to explain in further detail. I have a lot to learn about this stuff :)
To: Voluntaryist
The Republican leadership has been in on this since day one.
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posted on
09/30/2016 8:53:56 PM PDT
by
stockpirate
(OBAMA MUST BE ON THE PAYROLL OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.)
To: stockpirate
I thought there were states attorney generals that took this to court to get a restraining order until they could get their case together for court I haven’t heard how the court ruled, tit went before a TEXAS judge so I was hoping for the best!!!
To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
The judge refused the injunction. Story is linked on the video page.
To: Voluntaryist
Will Obama have a press conference with the new owners or will they stay secret
To: Voluntaryist
I will do that. Thanks for the advice. I am rusty as to where I find the IP addresses readily, though. Where do I find them? Thanks.
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posted on
09/30/2016 9:05:07 PM PDT
by
madison10
(Proud to be a Deplorable)
To: madison10
To: butlerweave
I imagine he will stay silent like the rat he is or he will say he just read about it.
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posted on
09/30/2016 9:08:38 PM PDT
by
funfan
To: Voluntaryist
Thanks! Guess I’ll be starting an IP notebook.
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posted on
09/30/2016 9:09:49 PM PDT
by
madison10
(Proud to be a Deplorable)
To: Voluntaryist
How do the decentralized hubs communicate with each other? How does one hub know the other exists? If there is an address book, can’t the decentralized hubs be controlled by the government?
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posted on
09/30/2016 9:12:17 PM PDT
by
Chgogal
(A woman who votes for Hillary is voting with her vagina and not her brain.)
To: Voluntaryist
In October 2016, federal oversight of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) will end, the culmination of a nearly 20-year-old plan to fully privatize the organization. As the date draws nearer for the California nonprofit to cut ties with the U.S. government, some conservative lawmakers have voiced concern that ICANNs transition to a more global, multi-stakeholder model of governance will result in countries like Russia, China and Iran having greater control over the Internet, giving them another avenue to suppress free speech. Texas Senator Ted Cruz, for example, has said that [i]f Congress fails to act, the Obama administration intends to give away control of the Internet to an international body akin to the United Nations, and has called on Congress to stop the Obama administration from relinquishing U.S. control of the Internet. While conservatives have no shortage of reasons to distrust the Obama administration regarding
well, anything, there are also reasons to be wary of claims that the U.S. is giving up control over the Internet. To understand why the sky probably isnt falling, its helpful to know what the Internet actually is, and what ICANN does and doesnt do.
Contrary to popular misconception, the Internet isnt owned or operated by the U.S. government. The Internet as we know it today is made up of tens of thousands of privately owned, interconnected networks, which neither the federal government nor ICANN control. Because it is unrealistic for a single network operator to have a network in every geographic location, network operators establish agreements to carry each others Internet traffic if the intended destination requires it. When Internet traffic between an origin and a destination takes a path across multiple networks, this process is called routing, and the hardware devices that facilitate routing are called routers. Without routing, the Internet simply wouldnt work. However, it is important to remember that, like the thousands of networks that comprise the Internet, the routers on the edges of these networks are primarily operated by the private sector, not the U.S. government or ICANN.
Although routers use IP addresses like 192.110.210.85, humans dont like having to type them into their Web browsers. Instead, people prefer readable domain names like patriotpost.us, but routers dont inherently know what to do with them. To remedy this problem and create harmony between man and machine, we use a system that turns human-readable domain names into router-usable IP addresses, which is called the Domain Name System (DNS). DNS can be thought of as a convenience layer on top of the Internets routing layer. When a domain name is typed into a Web browser, a DNS lookup is performed, which is really just a simple question: What is the IP address associated with the domain name patriotpost.us? for example. The answer is 192.110.210.85, the DNS server responds. The Web browser then takes that answer and makes it the destination, at which point it is up to the Internets routers not DNS to get you there. However, there is a potential wrinkle in this system: Anybody with a little technical know-how can set up their own DNS server, so how do we ensure that we get the right answer when we ask DNS a question? How do we know that patriotpost.us (or any other domain) is globally unique, with only one DNS server providing an authoritative answer about its IP address? Thats where ICANN enters the picture, which offers this concise explanation of the organizations role:
To reach another person on the Internet you have to type an address into your computer a name or a number. That address has to be unique so computers know where to find each other. ICANN coordinates these unique identifiers across the world. Without that coordination we wouldnt have one global Internet.
Among ICANNs primary responsibilities is the management of several important databases. The most famous of these databases is the root zone file, which is like a phone book in which the names are top-level domains like .com and the phone numbers are server addresses like a.gtld-servers.net. This root zone file is literally a simple text file viewable by anyone. Because ICANN tries to ensure that the DNS servers responsible for each top-level domain are listed correctly in the root zone file, third parties can be reasonably confident that when they consult a DNS server on the list, the lookup will yield the correct answer. In practice, the Internets 13 highest-level DNS server operators consider ICANNs root zone file to be an authoritative list of which DNS servers answer questions for which top-level domains, which in turn contributes to a consistent DNS experience across the globe and allows the Internets thousands of network operators to be on the same page. In other words, ICANN doesnt own the Domain Name System, but rather stewards a list that is trusted by DNS server operators to ensure that lookups are reliable, globally consistent and correct. And while DNS plays a crucial role in making the Internet easier to use for humans, it works at a higher level than the more fundamental routing level where Internet traffic actually transits.
Understanding what DNS does (match domains with IP addresses) and doesnt do (route Internet traffic) helps illustrate why governments like China, Iran, Egypt and Pakistan have already had great success censoring the Internet in their countries, despite the lack of any cooperation from ICANN. The creation of Chinas Great Firewall and the shutdown of Egypts Internet during the Arab Spring were possible because those countries took control of the routers within their borders. This was and continues to be the most effective method of censoring free speech on the Web, because whoever has control of the routers controls their corner of the Internet. It doesnt matter whether a DNS lookup for a website recounting the Tiananmen Square Massacre succeeds or fails if Chinas routers are configured to block IP traffic to that destination. The fact that such Internet censorship already occurs also belies the argument that the U.S. controls the Internet. If it did, why do we allow China to censor it, or Egypt to shut it down? The truth is that ICANN is unable to stop the suppression of free speech on the Internet, because the means of that suppression is beyond ICANNs ability to control or influence. However, the corollary is that it is difficult to imagine a scenario in which ICANN could suppress free speech on the Internet in a way that is more effective than current methods. Some might say thats meager consolation, since all the aforementioned human rights abusers have a seat at the ICANN table. Without direct U.S. government oversight, wont China and Iran attempt to use those seats to somehow undermine ICANN?
The answer is almost certainly, though there are reasons to be optimistic that they wont get very far. The first mitigating factor is that ICANNs Government Advisory Committee (GAC) is made up of about 170 countries, all of which have to agree on any recommendations it makes to ICANN. The key word is recommendation. The GAC does not have governing authority over ICANN. When the GAC does make unanimous recommendations, ICANNs directors will vote on those recommendations. Already, we can see problems for GAC members engaging in shenanigans: China, for example, would have to convince 170 nations (including the United States and the rest of the free world) that its a good idea to start picking winners and losers in the DNS phone book by removing Taiwans .tw top-level domain. The difficulties dont stop there, however, because ICANN will be governed under a multi-stakeholder model in which the private sector, represented by the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), will have even more power than the GAC to suggest policies to ICANN. It is precisely these private sector stakeholders that operate the majority of the DNS servers listed in ICANNs root zone file, and China would have to somehow convince them that being meddled with by an oppressive regime is preferable to the relative autonomy they enjoy. Assuming that the communists in Beijing managed to pull off this amazing feat, ICANNs directors would still be able to vote against their recommendations.
A second factor working against the Chinas and Irans on the GAC is that ICANN is only legitimate to the extent that the Internets network operators agree on its legitimacy. We have made the case that ICANN doesnt control the Internet, but rather stewards certain databases that help ensure the stability and global consistency of the Internet. While ICANN is somewhat entrenched in this role on account of its original charter and successful stewardship thus far, this by no means guarantees ICANNs future standing if the organization were to become unduly influenced by totalitarian regimes. Recall that the Internets 13 highest-level DNS servers serve the root zone file maintained by ICANN. Only one of those 13 servers is actually operated by ICANN, while the rest are run by organizations like the NASA Ames Research Center, the U.S. Army Research Lab, the University of Maryland, and Verisign (a U.S. corporation). If ICANN manipulated the root zone file in a way that harmed U.S. business interests or national security, it is unlikely that all of the highest-level DNS servers would continue to treat ICANNs root zone file as authoritative, and an opportunity would be created for another entity to maintain a database trustworthy enough to be designated authoritative. Even if all 13 of the highest-level DNS server operators did go along with ICANNs theoretical mismanagement of the root zone file, the Internets tens of thousands of network operators would have the choice of either continuing to accept the legitimacy of those 13 DNS servers, or pointing their own, lower-level DNS servers at newly created root DNS servers they deem trustworthy. While this scenario wouldnt be desirable, as it could potentially shard the Internet into two or more regional internets, it does illustrate that there would be serious limitations on the ability of a state actor to adversely influence the functionality of the Internet through ICANN.
So is the United States giving up control of the Internet? The answer is, No. The United States cant give up control it doesnt have. Rather, the U.S. is giving up direct oversight of ICANN, and will instead assume an advisory role. What does this mean for Internet freedom? In the short term, probably not much, if anything. We expect the Internet will remain uncensored in countries where it is currently uncensored, and censored in countries where it is already censored, because ICANNs function neither helps nor hinders the censorship schemes of oppressive regimes.
The long term is more difficult to assess, because just as the technology underlying the Internet continues to evolve, organizations and governments arent static they change and take on new roles. But one of the great strengths of the Internets fundamental structure is that absent centralized control, it can only function based on trust and mutual agreement. Because the Internet is comprised of thousands of independently owned networks, it is difficult for bad policies to win out over good policies, since most network operators will favor policies that benefit the greatest number of users.
Despite its important role in the reliable operation of the Internet, even ICANN cannot impose its will on unwilling network owners. Rather, ICANN has succeeded thus far because network operators have not yet been given a reason not to trust it. One of the stated objectives of ICANNs transition to a fully privatized organization without direct government oversight is to further solidify that trust and ensure that the Internet remains global, rather than devolving into numerous fractured regional internets. Whether ICANN will deliver on that commitment remains to be seen. Their track record is good, but at the intersection of technology and international politics, the future can never be certain. Fortunately, the distributed nature of the Internet means that if the new ICANN fails to live up to its stated principles, there are escape hatches.
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posted on
09/30/2016 9:14:47 PM PDT
by
Dallas59
(Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
To: Chgogal
I don’t have enough info to answer your questions. I’m a novice and I’ve only begun reading about decentralized internet a few weeks ago.
To: Dallas59
Great post! This is why I mentioned that the biggest, most immediate concern would be the stripping of domain names and why everyone should create a personal list of website IP addresses.
To: Voluntaryist
COMING SOON...
Your website "FREEREPUBLIC.COM | IP 203.108.32.122"
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