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Why Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton aren't fighting the culture wars
The Week ^ | September 28, 2016 | Damon Linker

Posted on 09/28/2016 7:31:02 AM PDT by C19fan

The most momentous thing about Monday night's presidential debate wasn't anything Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton said. It's what they didn't say.

Not a word was spoken about abortion, same-sex marriage, religious freedom, "family values," or any other issue championed by the religious right over the past few decades. True, those issues didn't fit naturally with the economic, race, and national security topics on the agenda Monday night. But in previous presidential contests, that wouldn't have stopped the Republican nominee from inserting a comment somewhere about protecting unborn life or the importance of traditional families. On Monday night, we heard nothing about that from the debate stage — and the silence was deafening.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; christianvote; culture; culturewars; religious; trump2016
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American is following what happened in Europe just a decade or two behind.
1 posted on 09/28/2016 7:31:02 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Where’s Huma?


2 posted on 09/28/2016 7:31:52 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Who will be fact checking the "fact checkers"?)
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Liberals have won the culture wars.

Liberals dominate the culture. What more do you want to say?


3 posted on 09/28/2016 7:36:06 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: C19fan

This is because Trump changed the subject early on in the primary race. The presidential election issues are those chosen by Trump. Immigration, trade, border security, the economy, etc.


4 posted on 09/28/2016 7:39:38 AM PDT by CapitalistCrusader
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To: goldstategop

Reclaiming ground in the culture wars will require taking back control of the Federal court system.

In order to do that you have to win elections.
Clearly that had ceased to happen with a socially-driven agenda.

Just being fully pragmatic here.


5 posted on 09/28/2016 7:42:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: C19fan

Because most Americans realize this is for all the marbles. You are in a sinking boat, you better focus on survival before thinking about where you are going to go.

The economy is bad no matter what the establishment says.
Tens of millions of hostile foreigners are pouring in.
We are in countless wars and they are pushing for shooting wars with China and Russia.
It is clear they intent to wipe America out.

There will be no country to argue over if we don’t win THIS one.


6 posted on 09/28/2016 7:45:21 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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We are in countless wars and they are pushing for shooting wars with China and Russia.

Anyone who would push for shooting wars with those countries is CERTIFIABLY INSANE!


7 posted on 09/28/2016 7:46:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: goldstategop

Yep


8 posted on 09/28/2016 7:47:09 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... Hilary is an Ameriphobe)
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To: C19fan

I’d point out that the first debate was supposed to be about the economy and national security. There’s be plenty of time for stirring up the various ‘warriors.’


9 posted on 09/28/2016 7:48:19 AM PDT by sparklite2 (When they play the race card, play the Trump card.)
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To: CapitalistCrusader

[The presidential election issues are those chosen by Trump.]

DONALD TRUMP has emphatically stated he will appoint pro-life Supreme Court Judges, fight for the religious liberties of Christians, and repeal the tax law that has held the Church in bondage to the government.

TRUMP has made PRO-FAMILY, PRO-LIFE, PRO-RELIGIOUS LIBERTY issues a priority in his campaign.


10 posted on 09/28/2016 7:48:22 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: C19fan

While they touched on a few issues, really, there was only one issue they talked about in depth: Donald Trump. This is how I judge he has probably already won the election. Nobody spends that much time focusing on a loser.


11 posted on 09/28/2016 7:55:40 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Wrong. Immigration IS the culture war. It is the front line. Until you control your borders you have no control at all over what kinds of people and/or morality you bring in.


12 posted on 09/28/2016 7:58:03 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Bingo.


13 posted on 09/28/2016 7:59:18 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: DesertRhino

Exactly, if we don’t focus on the immediate existential threats, there won’t be an America left to fret over it being full of tranny snowflake serial aborters.


14 posted on 09/28/2016 7:59:24 AM PDT by Boogieman
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At this point, *talking* about them is useless on the national stage.

Better to get into office, and spend three of the four years *doing* something about them, and then the last year pouring foam on the firestorm.

We know Trump is pro-life, pro-federalism, etc. I’m not worried about him doing any major swings for the Dems on these.


15 posted on 09/28/2016 8:05:27 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can't have a constitution without a country to go with it)
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The TEA Party eschews social issues because they're nothing but a waste of time.
16 posted on 09/28/2016 8:09:11 AM PDT by Blacklisted ("Paul Manafort, you're fired.")
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To: goldstategop
Liberals have won the culture wars.

Liberals dominate the culture. What more do you want to say?


The war isn't over yet just because they say it is.

New coalitions and alliances means the battles get fought differently.

Yes, the public schools are long gone,a nd so is much higher education. Our retreat involves a retrenchment people with homeschoolers and others who are privately educated combined with those raised by parents who are temperamentally outfitted to pushback against the public schools and raise their children accordingly.

While leftists dominate the largest channels of communication, there are far more than there were 40 years ago. No one institution (e.g. NR) being co-opted means the end of anything.

Besides the expansion and political victories of homeschooling, we have political victories on the 2nd Amendment question. The leftists are looking to short-circuit both and also stomp on religious freedom with the courts and regulations. They haven't finished the job yet. Just keep clingin' to God, family and guns, and don't surrender, even as the price of non-compliance goes up. And it will.
17 posted on 09/28/2016 8:57:58 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: C19fan

Abortion is still out there and the trends are going against the left on that most basic and fundamental of culture war issues. Gays getting married pales in comparison.


18 posted on 09/28/2016 9:20:06 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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That’s right; the “culture war” is over and the left won.

Our culture is now only allowed in private.


19 posted on 09/28/2016 10:42:19 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Blacklisted

No, the TEA Party avoided the culture war because they are an anti-tax/smaller government movement (TEA = Taxed Enough Already). The NRA is the same: They are focused on a particular issue.


20 posted on 09/28/2016 10:43:59 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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