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To: Hostage

I didn’t say there’s wouldn’t be a blockchain at some point. I said there wouldn’t be a blockchain in the POINT THAT MATTERS.

Your own model shows the problems. If there’s a hand count that can be faked, block chain doesn’t matter. Basically at that point you’re putting a whole bunch of technology to “secure” data that’s faked the same way it’s been getting faked for hundreds of years.


20 posted on 09/11/2016 1:39:29 PM PDT by discostu (If you need to load or unload go to the white zone, you'll love it, it's a way of life)
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To: discostu; Hostage
If there’s a hand count that can be faked, block chain doesn’t matter

It does. You need to learn about PKI. The private key is encrypted in your phone or computer, plus an encrypted backup. If someone wants to vote as you they need to hack your phone or computer, but also need to decrypt the private key. The malware can watch you vote and grab the private key when you use it to vote. But that is difficult and getting more difficult thanks to private key protection being developed for cryptocurrency.

When you use your private key to vote, it is because you have been granted one vote by a blockchain transaction. The transaction allows your public key to register one vote (actually your address which is derived from your public key). As I said all along, and I will repeat, the registrar has to make sure they don't grant you more than one vote capability i.e. you are not able to register more than one blockchain address. That is a registration problem that is not solved by blockchain. But once they have your canonical physical address matched up to your blockchain address, you get one vote. Counting is easy is can't be faked or hacked. Again, the only problem is the registration process, anything else is a red herring.

23 posted on 09/11/2016 2:09:26 PM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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To: discostu

Hand count fraud in dem strongholds like Chicago, Philadelphia, etc. has occurred for decades. But there are witnesses and the witnesses do provide a check on the magnitude of the fraud.

In battleground states, battleground counties down to critical districts, fraud that happens in the machines is invisible, there are no witnesses. What happens in the hand count is witnessed. Therefore, if the hand count and the machines do not agree in the blockchain, that is evidence of fraud or malfunction.

Hand count fraud and the machine totals will with extremely high probability not agree, even if machine fraud is taking place because what happens in the machine is not witnessed or seeable. For the two totals to agree would entail having poll counters deliberately count what they are told in advance but each poll counter is watched and in any event, it would enlarge the conspiracy so much that the fraud would be easily uncovered and would fail.

The situation today is that the machines can be hacked by a few persons without a trace and the machines or their memory cards can be put in critical voting counties where the totals tip the state to one nominee or the other. Thus, the crime is by a few and is not easy to detect. This is a new threat that was not really taken seriously before. Block-Chain Tech eliminates the opportunity for a few to control the outcome.

Now, for those that refuse to believe the crime syndicate headed by Bill Clinton and those behind Obama will not go for this level and detail of fraud in light of all they have to lose, I ask them on what basis do you simply wave your hand and believe the Clintons or whoever won’t do such a thing?


28 posted on 09/11/2016 2:31:09 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V):)
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