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Report Criticizes ATF Storefront Illegal Gun Sale Stings
ABCNews ^

Posted on 09/08/2016 3:28:36 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA

Federal agents lacked proper guidance and experience while conducting undercover sting operations in Milwaukee and several other cities that were aimed at disrupting illegal gun sales, according to a U.S. Justice Department report released Thursday.

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Pensacola agents didn't place a team outside the store to help with potential emergencies and had no plans for dealing with people who couldn't legally possess guns but who left the store armed. The store also was burglarized once; the report said agents didn't install an alarm.

In St. Louis, agents set up their storefront 600 feet from a Boys and Girls Club. Most of the agents involved weren't aware of the club and a tactical advisor said it's never a good idea to run operations around children.

Boston agents ran their store out of a van that moved around, leading the lead agent to remark that the chance of randomly encountering someone on the street who wants to sell a gun was virtually nonexistent.

The report found that the storefront sting operations' problems were caused primarily by poor management and insufficient training and guidance for field agents. A lax culture that failed to emphasize managing risks also played a role.

It also found that agents lacked adequate policies and supervision. The ATF assigned inexperienced agents to run and supervise the operations and shifted them around without adequate support from the bureau's headquarters, which didn't pay enough attention to how the operations were being run.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; guncontrol; gunrunning; jbt; milwaukee; obama
Wonder who will be held accountable for this?/s
1 posted on 09/08/2016 3:28:37 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Mr Trump, Read this Article and get GITMO ready for a whole bunch of new residents.


2 posted on 09/08/2016 3:34:20 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Wonder who will be held accountable for this?/s

Well, all the boys and girls that attended that boys and girls club will certainly go to Federal prison, ...and maybe the postman.

3 posted on 09/08/2016 3:39:44 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The gubmint is quietly arming the bad guys to foment violence and bloodshed, aimed at turning the U.S. into Venezuela. Think ‘Fast & Furious’ of sorts.


4 posted on 09/08/2016 3:40:37 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Make-work from “F Troop”...along with surreptitiously making rare toys like StG44s turn up at gun turn-ins in hope of snagging an overambitious collector with money.


5 posted on 09/08/2016 3:44:16 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: Red in Blue PA
OK, the ATF goons are luring into their fake gun shops Americans suffering with Downs syndrome, Asperbergers (autism) and mental retardation, and then busting them. Slingblade photo: SlingBlade film_slingblade.gif All right then.
6 posted on 09/08/2016 3:45:49 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The Keystone cops were geniuses compared to the buffoons at the ATF.

Disband it.


7 posted on 09/08/2016 3:57:29 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The ATF should go back to running guns to Mexican drug cartels.
Their success rate was much higher than these dopey operations.


8 posted on 09/08/2016 4:27:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (~Putin made me post this!~)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

ATF Bastards..... children of a whore...


9 posted on 09/08/2016 4:28:24 PM PDT by ptsal
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’ve met quite a few ATF agents here in DC and for the most part they’re good, smart people. They are the first to tell you their agency is FUBAR.

One thing they are very clear on is “It’s not just people and drugs pouring over the border, it’s guns.”

If you want to silence a yappy anti-gun liberal, tell em that fact and enjoy the deer in the headlights stare!


10 posted on 09/08/2016 4:31:58 PM PDT by lizma2
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“It’s not just people and drugs pouring over the border, it’s guns.”

Which way, in or out of the US? The Mexicans blame us for their crime rate.


11 posted on 09/08/2016 4:57:50 PM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: lizma2

It’s hard to do a good job busting bad guys when the boss wants you to have high profile busts of FFLs to spin a narrative that makes his bosses look good.

The AtF needs an ideological purge of everyone not cut from good clothe in their management.


12 posted on 09/08/2016 5:23:37 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

OK

this fake gun store, in a van.

was trying to get criminals to do business with them?

buy used guns at a high price?
sell guns at a low price?

or something else.


13 posted on 09/08/2016 6:40:21 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: Red in Blue PA

Setting up fake stores?


14 posted on 09/08/2016 7:49:59 PM PDT by Ray76 (Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Fast and Furious - Domestic Edition.

Step One: Dump guns in American cities.

Step Two: Use large numbers of illegal guns in American cities to justify confiscation schemes.


15 posted on 09/09/2016 2:58:49 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (The 2nd Amendment immediately follows the 1st because some people are hard of hearing...)
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To: RockyTx

But they make it up on volume...


16 posted on 09/09/2016 2:59:52 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (The 2nd Amendment immediately follows the 1st because some people are hard of hearing...)
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To: Bogey78O
It’s hard to do a good job busting bad guys when the boss wants you to have high profile busts of FFLs to spin a narrative that makes his bosses look good.

DING! DING! DING!

We have a WINNER!!

This is the MO for every Federal Government Agency...they are trying to make themselves look good and pertinent, so that THEIR gravy train doesn't get pulled from the tracks!! Truth, justice, fairness, Constitutionality....NONE OF THOSE MATTER!

The only thing that matters to them, is whether or not they will get their American taxpayer-provided, golden parachute after screwing over Americans!
17 posted on 09/09/2016 4:57:45 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Public sector unions: A & B agreeing on a contract to screw C!)
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To: Bogey78O
The AtF needs an ideological purge of everyone not cut from good clothe in their management.

I agree. But it won't happen.

At this point I'm thinkin we are living a fantasy if we think someone will step up to the plate. It will never happen. Too corrupt.

Reality is we are the lobsters in the pot and it's getting a bit warm.

18 posted on 09/09/2016 4:24:53 PM PDT by lizma2
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