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History Repeats Itself in the Venezuela Tragedy
Townhall.com ^ | September 9, 2016 | Jerry Newcombe

Posted on 09/08/2016 9:28:38 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 09/08/2016 9:28:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Cautionary Tale Ping.


2 posted on 09/08/2016 9:32:54 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Vote Trump. Defeat the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Reset America.)
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To: Kaslin

I’m sure many of the early Communist leaders were idealists who wanted a better and more just world.

It just didn’t work out that way because you can’t make every one equal and every one happy.

Human nature doesn’t like to be regimented. Eventually, you’re going to have to take away people’s freedom to make them fit an arbitrary social mold.

Communism always fails even in circumstances where people once supported it - like in the former Yugoslavia.


3 posted on 09/08/2016 9:34:11 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Kaslin
How many people have to die before the world, including many Americans, realizes that socialism never works, always fails, and kills people?

If 100,000,000+++ in the 20th Century didn't do it, nothing will.

From Rudyard Kipling, a century ago:

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

4 posted on 09/08/2016 9:36:35 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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People have to learn the hard way the reality is nothing like the theory.

One of Tito’s most prominent colleagues, Milovan Djilas, split with him when he realized Communists were creating a New Class and making inequality worse than it was before.

Personally, I am of the view human freedom is far too precious to be sacrificed on the altar of the ideal society.

And social justice means different things to different people.


5 posted on 09/08/2016 9:42:03 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Kaslin

Look at the unspeakable tragedies that continue to unfold in Venezuela right now. People are scrambling just to get food to eat.


Yeah, it sucks. But they voted these bastards into office. And to describe this as an unspeakable tragedy is laughable. It also denigrates real tragedy.


6 posted on 09/08/2016 9:44:43 AM PDT by sparklite2 (The game overs whether you play it or not.)
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They voted in Chavez and Maduro in free elections.

Venezuelans thought a socialist society could be built without a lot of sacrifice and there would be plenty and abundance - gushing like oil from the land.

I can excuse many things but not human stupidity. And stupid people starving to death - serves ‘em right.

Its not a tragedy when catastrophe is self-inflicted.


7 posted on 09/08/2016 9:49:12 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...
TADSLOS :" Cautionary Tale Ping."

When the Socialist State has an incestuous relationship with the media ,
and when your professors in most of the colleges create breeding grounds for Socialism and Communism ,
then you will have successive generations of economic jealousy.

How do you react ?
You choose your friends wisely, encourage independent intelligence and education, study the history of human behavior,
anticipate and prepare for the unknown( but it's already known, in history).

8 posted on 09/08/2016 10:03:48 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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Tilted Irish Kilt :" ..anticipate and prepare for the unknown( but it's already known, in history)."

That is one of the reasons why "Common Core" doesn't teach accurate or in depth history.
They want you to forget history, because it repeats itself.

9 posted on 09/08/2016 10:07:35 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( British historian Arnold Toynbee - Civilisations die from suicide, not by murder.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s been said “The one thing we learn from history is that we never learn anything from history”.


10 posted on 09/08/2016 10:13:09 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kaslin
It is telling that socialists are always more concerned with distribution of wealth than with its generation. That is inherently parasitical, and when the surplus runs out, so does the distribution, just as it has in Venezuela. Cleverly rationed, the socialist can milk that surplus long enough so that nobody notices the steady drain in his or her lifetime. Socialism is not, to use a particularly obnoxious neologism, "sustainable".

In fact, it's theft, and its modern stalking horse "social justice" is theft as well. There certainly are mechanisms through which a surplus may be voluntarily contributed to the collective - charity is far older than Marxism, and it's good for the soul that the Marxist denies we have. But the flip side of "to each according to his need" is "from each according to his ability", not according to his willingness to share. The socialist state will provide that motivation at the point of a bayonet. The more productive will always be the slave of the lesser, and the ultimate master will be the one who produces nothing at all. Why anyone would ever think that system would work in spite of a century of contraindicative evidence is quite beyond me.

11 posted on 09/08/2016 10:19:03 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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I wonder why none of the famous Venezuelan ballplayers in the U.S. have not come forward to say there’s a better way. Too scared I guess.


12 posted on 09/08/2016 10:24:08 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: goldstategop

The minute there is a leader is the minute someone thinks they are a better leader and their only goal is to get rid of the leader in charge.

End of experiment.


13 posted on 09/08/2016 10:26:23 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Trump is our Yeltsin.)
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To: Billthedrill

Well said.


14 posted on 09/08/2016 10:31:16 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Rap music: Soundtrack of the retarded.)
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To: Kaslin

Venezuela has an oil revenue problem due to lower oil prices. It also has a oil production problem because too much oil revenue was spent on government handouts and not enough on oil production and refinery equipment.


15 posted on 09/08/2016 11:07:24 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Kaslin

47% of amerikans .... as mittens said

93 million workers out of work

the socialsit globalist new world order have plans for us......
inclueing total loss of personal freedom...

hillary is part of the plan

WAKE THE FUP


16 posted on 09/08/2016 11:38:01 AM PDT by zzwhale (no way)
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To: goldstategop
They voted in Chavez and Maduro in free elections.

In all liklihood, only once -- the first time.

Recall that Chavez hired the dictator-loving Jimmeh Cahtuh to supervise Venezuela's elections. And, in all subsequent elections, there was evidence that the election results denied the popular will.

17 posted on 09/08/2016 11:46:48 AM PDT by okie01
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To: Kaslin
The Democratic vs. Republican Constitutions.
18 posted on 09/08/2016 12:36:08 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: zzwhale
You are a fucking idiot
19 posted on 09/08/2016 12:58:10 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Socialism means never having to say,
“Please get in the boxcar”.


20 posted on 09/08/2016 1:02:46 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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