Posted on 09/03/2016 9:39:13 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
Obese people will be routinely refused operations across the NHS, health service bosses have warned, after one authority said it would limit procedures on an unprecedented scale.
Hospital leaders in North Yorkshire said that patients with a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or above – as well as smokers – will be barred from most surgery for up to a year amid increasingly desperate measures to plug a funding black hole. The restrictions will apply to standard hip and knee operations.
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Remember to bring a lead injector to ER.
The reasoning is THEY CHOSE to do this to themselves.
Say:
WHY do we treat male AIDS patients..?
Over 1/3 of them have over 1,000 different sex partners.
I don’t hate them, but it seems like they are BEGGING for an expensive disease.
Insurance companies charge motorcycle riders more, as they pose a higher risk.
Smokers are charged more.
WHY must the public PAY ON BEHALF of a group that is DELIBERATELY contracting an expensive disease...?
If they are fat, yes.
Wow!
I just got off my stepper and saw this.
Just remember, we have to eat to survive; it is not an option. Other unhealthy activities are not necessary in order to live. Yes, I have made mistakes. I accept them and my responsibility. I also think my doctor knows more than you do.
I hope others are kinder to you with your faults than you are to others.
I was not stating a sob story. I accept my faults and know they are on me.
Sheesh.
It is so awesome to have someone so perfect and, a stranger at that, preach to me about being a positive influence. I know you have been on me!
Thank you.
/s
Yep. Simple triage. When resources are limited, as they are in the UK, medical care goes first to those who ave the best chances of benefiting from it.
People who smoke (as I did for 30 years) and people who are obese have already demonstrated a lack of concern over their personal health.
“Smoking causes knee and hip injuries? Those “scientists” have been working overtime!”
First, let me say that I believe people have the right to smoke, if they wish, and to hurt themselves in this manner, if they wish. It’s a choice, and I don’t believe in the ‘nanny state’.
That said, it’s very important for people to understand that smoking has ‘systemic’ effects on the body that go well beyond tar in your lungs and nicotine’s pharmacological effects. Smoking causes systemic vascular inflammation and oxidative stress, increases the likelihood of platelet activation and thrombosis, activates specific gene expression pathways (e.g. induction of hypoxia-responsive pathways because of carbon monoxide), activates elastase in the lung and promotes mucous gland hypertrophy and increased mucous production - thus contributing to emphysema and chronic bronchitis, and is clearly epidemiologically linked to an array of malignancies - including malignancies of ‘remote’ organs one might not think susceptible, such as bladder cancer.
None of the above is conjecture. It is what it is. So, in the context of the hip and knee issues, it is not a stretch at all to relate smoking to decreased blood flow to the femoral head, which has a precarious blood supply to begin with - (think of Bo Jackson’s football injury which disrupted blood flow to the femoral head and resulted in necrosis of the femoral head and the requirement for hip replacement). It is likewise not a stretch to believe that smoking could decrease blood flow to knee ligaments, and/or result in the activation of inflammatory pathways that could contribute to the degradation of cartilage and tendons.
I could go on and on about the science, and the effects of smoking.
Personal choice, should remain that way, but is a bad choice.
You're welcome.
220lbs 5’18” here. Exercise twice/wk. Mostly org veg diet, occasional meat.
Because AIDS was politicized and the side that politicized it won.
You should see what we spend on AIDS research. President Obama’s Fiscal Year 2017 federal budget request includes an estimated $34 billion for combined domestic and global HIV efforts.
$34 billion. Billion with a 'B'. For a disease that is almost entirely preventable.
Cancer, by comparison, receives a little over $5 billion in research funding.
This is most likely true. Old people who smoke often look like their are going to fall to pieces at the slightest touch. And then there are others who are older yet compete in Ironman.
I want some one to tell me again how great the Brit system is
“Hello Mr. Opie. I’m Doctor Smith. Before we go over your treatment options we need to go over your voting record....”
The reason, as I said is to document a trail of evidence to deny services in the future.
Of course.
Anything less would be racist and xenophobic..
“Morbidly obese fatsos, like alcoholics and drug addicts, tend to be bad influences on others.”
So do idiots who talk out of their bung holes.
That'll make the Bolsheviks happy.
They’ll manage them, alright. Right into busy traffic with earplugs and 12” white cane.
Don’t bogart the buffet. It’s not fair!
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