Posted on 09/02/2016 10:01:45 AM PDT by whiterhino
Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Are Tied In Latest IBD/TIPP Poll at 39% with other candidates getting 15%. Just like Reagan/Carter in September 1980. Both candidates had/have similar unfavorables also at this time of the election cycle.
From the CNN archive of the 1984 TIME article:
"Carter and Reagan are deadlocked at 39% each, while Anderson's support is 15%... based on a national sample of 1,644 registered voters interviewed between Aug. 26 and 28."
Regarding favorability among the candidates:
From the latest IBD/TIPP poll:
"Meanwhile, nearly two thirds (62%) now say Clinton is "not honest or trustworthy," up from 58% in last month's poll. Trump scores comparatively much better, with 52% saying he's not honest or trustworthy, a three-point improvement from last month."
From the Reagan/Mondale Time article:
"Only 11% report genuine enthusiasm for Reagan; a mere 9% feel that way about Carter and 6% about Anderson. In fact, much of the support given their preferred candidates is based on voters' opposition to the others, the choices are essentially anti votes. Thus 43% of the voters who prefer Reagan say they do so because they are "really voting against Carter." Similarly, 34% of Carter's supporters say their choice is based on opposition to Reagan, while a hefty 61% of Anderson's followers admit that they are motivated by being "against Carter and Reagan." "
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A fair bit of relevance for those who are trying to make electoral predictions based on polls.
If one is trying to make predictions as to how he might govern, you are right. That said, while
Trump is no Reagan, Obama is no Carter, W is no Nixon, Clinton no LBJ, and Bush Sr. no Eisenhower. With the exception of Reagan, and perhaps Nixon, the presidents from the respective parties have been getting steadily worse. If Trump can improve on this by at least being better than the Bushes, let him drive the car.
I thought Carter had remained well ahead in September. I thought the race didn’t tighten until the end, and by tighten I mean what the presstitutes were willing to admit.
Our neighborhood is so safe that people actually put out Trump signs on their lawns.
John Anderson was VERY visible in 1980.
He was literally all over television.
I could not even tell you what Gary Johnson looks like.
He’s north of 8%? Seems highly unlikely.
“I thought Carter had remained well ahead in September. I thought the race didn’t tighten until the end, and by tighten I mean what the presstitutes were willing to admit.”
Yes, that was the impression Walter Cronkite gave me too! LOL!
Sam Donaldson was the absolute worst. He was there when Reagan got shot and was later quoted by associates expressing private disappointment that the wounds weren’t fatal. He was a scumbag’s scumbag.
“Our neighborhood is so safe that people actually put out Trump signs on their lawns.”
Meh, too much work for me in my Lib city, I’d have to replace it every morning.
My dad’s generation was intentionally deceived by the roll of the press. They are playing the same game today, but I ain’t buying it.
I had the distinct pleasure of taking a college level statistics class from one of Withlin's staffers who shared some of the techniques. Wirthlin's group honed those stills enough by 1984 that he predicted a 47 state win. This time, he was only off by two.
Like I’ve been saying...
TRUMP LANDSLIDE COMING
It will all comedown to the debates. Who wins Number one will win the election.
In the debates, Trump can think very fast on his feet. Hillary will be sitting no doubt, rolling through her memorized list of zingers.
I know Reagan land slided Carter but how the hell could polls even have it close with double digit inflation and interest rates and the military in shambles
“I could not even tell you what Gary Johnson looks like.
He’s north of 8%? Seems highly unlikely.”
He kind of reminds me of a stoned version of John Kasich for some reason.
He’s all over Facebook ... that probably explains his relatively high percentage in polls ... however, like you, I find it unlikely that he’ll get that much support in the election. Moreover, if he does appear on TV and starts talking, I suspect he’ll snag more votes from Clinton than Trump. He’s a left-leaning Libertarian ... and I don’t think his message resonates well with centrist RINOs.
If Johnson plucks votes from the mainstream party candidates, they’ll mostly be centrist Dems sick of the Democratic Party, but too brainwashed to ever pull the level for a Republican. I think the Democrats will see to it that Johnson doesn’t appear in the debates for that reason.
A friend of mine was working on behalf of John Anderson. I asked her what was the reason to vote for him because all I really heard from him was that he wasn’t Reagan and he wasn’t Carter. She couldn’t or wouldn’t give me an answer.
It might have been Republican in favor of abortion, but I really think there was no reason except fear of Reagan just like with Trump now. I expect this to turn out the same way except that they have much better vote fraud apparatus now.
Ah, back in the days when California was a battleground state.
Will that ever happen again in our lifetime?
Probably oversampling Dems like they do now. And a portion of the undecideds haven’t even worried about the race yet.
The MSM may be trying to inflate Johnson’s numbers so he gets into the debates. They certainly fear a one on one debate between Trump and Cankles
I also vividly remember the day Reagan was shot; also my senior year in college. The reason I remember it so well other than the obvious reason is I was a senior at Indiana University, and IU was scheduled to play North Carolina for the NCAA basketball championship that night. We did not know if the game would be played or not. It was; I still have the front page of the Bloomington paper the next day on the wall of my office. Two headlines: “Hoosiers NCAA Champs” and “Reagan Condition Excellent After Surgeons Remove Bullet.”
And Sam Donaldson was evil. He even looked evil with that creepy bizarre lopsided head of his. I never believed a word he said.
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