Posted on 08/31/2016 8:33:36 AM PDT by jerod
Ozzy Osbourne is convinced Nazi leader Adolf Hitler was gay.
The rocker is a World War II expert and his research has led him to believe the infamous Austrian was hiding a sexual secret, which may have turned him mad.
"I was born in '48," Ozzy tells RollingStone.com. "As a kid in England, I used to play on bomb sites. The insanity of it all got me interested.
"If Hitler honestly thought he was going to rule the world with people following him, he must have been f**king insane. He tried to invade Russia... that's, like, four time zones (away). Even with three million men marching, it ain't gonna last."
But it's Hitler's sex secrets that most intrigue Ozzy: "I always thought he was gay," he chuckles. "Back then, being gay was a criminal offence. When he would go to (vacation spot) Berchtesgaden, his cleaners would check to see if there were any stains on his blankets. And there never were any."
Homosexuality - Something Hitler, Obama and Hitlery have in common...
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“Hidden Hitler”, the most comprehensive research and also the Pink Swsstika both chronicle all the homosexual Nazis SS. Homosexuality was rampant in Germany in the late 1800s and early 1900s and in the Weimar Republic. The Art was the most vulgar and degenerate—on stage, etc. Marlene Dietrich was a bisexual who pushed her lesbian image as many of the early cinema in Germany. Homosexual acts were performed on stage as all sorts of evil art was generated.
The “homosexual” movement (the grooming) was founded in the later 1800s by a homosexual who wanted to normalize Sparta/Samurai “culture” (Man/Boy “Love”) which were both homosexual cultures (not that that Marxist Gender Theory word/lifestyle) existed then. All the sodomites in those cultures were expected to marry and have children (although the Spartans didn’t allow males to live with women until after age 30 (when they no longer wanted to rape the males because of age. They prefer the young and virile around puberty). Women were only for breeding, boys and men for sexual recreation in the Ancient pagan cultures.
Sex is fluid-—the pedophile, pervert Kinsey noted it.....immoral people can have sex with a dog or a goat....they have no moral compass. There is no such thing as “sexual orientation”——it is ALL bunk and desires (esp. perversions) are learned from child abuse and neglect so children do not sexually identify and bond with the member of their own sex. Not having proper role models (male/female) paradigm is also very confusing and warping to young children where embedded natural emotions will be warped (unnatural).
What they do know about Hitler is that all the women that knew him in a sexual manner committed suicide or tried to. He surrounded himself with homosexuals in the SS-—his driver was always an homosexual.
Hitler knew the importance of “perceptions” for the masses. They controlled all information and all images of Hitler—through Leni and Goebbels, they wanted the perception that they hated homosexuals-—simply because most people had Christian morals at the time. It is how they were able to kill Rohm (a homosexual who was very close to Hitler until he got into complete power and Rohm threatened his power.)
Hitler was abused by his father, kicked literally like a dog, and loved his mother all his life.......He had male identity issues-—did not bond with his father so was raised without an attachment to a positive male role model. (That need to bond will make warped relationships with other males and could end up sexual very easily, since that natural need to bond and no male sexual identity was established in childhood. For maturity—the ability to love the “Other”, it is essential to not be fixated in immature ages-—which Hitler was probably a fixated as a 2- 4 year old-—into the anal stage....that was when he was kicked in front of neighbors by his “father”. Trauma can seriously destroy normal sexual identity formation as will no father in the home.
BTW, Hidden Hitler proves that Hitler lived in the gay districts as a young man in his 20s and his best friends were homosexual/perverts. But there is no other “proof” he was homosexual, since they burned all the literature in the psychiatric institute run by a Jewish homosexual who had been doing research on homosexuals/perverts which had records on a lot of the Nazi SS and possibly Hitler.
“Hidden Hitler” author believed he was into Copophilia. Can’t remember why he came to that collusion, maybe because of the nieces suicide. It is a person who loves excrement which all secret society occult members LOVE—excrement, as do homosexuals whose homo-erotica is big on urine on faces along with feces. They mock God by performing sodomy because it mocks Life and equates it to Excrement.
Their real anger is always at God—particularly Christianity since it is the only religion to made pederasty and homosexuality into “Sin”. Christianity is the target of hate and the crosses removed from all Christian churches which replaced them with swastikas was crucial. They hated the God-centered Jews also, since they were the first to make marriage into one man, one woman.
Coprophiliacs basically worship their own excrement and are usually into sodomy and pedophilia. Hitler Youth boys were brought in for the SS to rape (Pink Swastika) regularly. Germany was known for their “National Vice” which was homosexuality by 1900 after all the homosexual boy scout camps were formed in the 1800s by homosexual scout masters so they could groom all the boys into a debauched lifestyle. All lifestyles are learned and habituated.
If you watch HGTV, Laundry Detergent Commercials and IKEA Commercials, apparently half the Population is Gay.
***“Hidden Hitler” author believed he was into Copophilia.***
Don’t Germans prefer the “Shelf Toilet” so they can admire their work?
http://asecular.com/~scott/misc/toilet.htm
Classic movie scene.
What they do know about Hitler is that all the women that knew him in a sexual manner committed suicide or tried to. He surrounded himself with homosexuals in the SS...
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Hitler also executed the homosexual leaders of the SS, or at the time, the socialist wing of the NSDAP. I don’t know if Hitler killed anyone personally, but every major serial killer I’ve read about was a sexual pervert.
When I took sociology 1000 in the last century, homosexuality was deviant behavior. So what has changed? Nothing.
Well, with Hitler this is really not a very far out theory at all. It’s been a popular opinion among many historians for decades, long before the homosexuals started claiming everyone in history is gay.
Notice also, the homos never try to claim Hitler was gay themselves, because the association doesn’t benefit them. It’s mainly non-homosexual historians who propose the idea.
It’s speculated that he was obsessed with his niece and may have had a relationship with her. Then again, the original source for the rumors about a relationship was, I believe, the OSS, and one of their specialties was putting out propaganda so who knows?
She did live with Hitler for a while and committed suicide in his apartment though.
Hence the hilarity that is "Hipster Hitler":
Personally I think that sexual deviancy was the least of Hitler's mental malfunctions but that doesn't mean that the Oz was wrong.
Seems to me folks are projecting their own modern perceptions/ worldview on to Hitler.
I read the 5 big biographies (Trevor-Roper, Tolland, Kershaw, Bullock and Fest) and his associates say no such thing. Hitler might have been partially asexual, but he was deeply in love with his niece in the 1920s, obsessively so and seems to have evoked a lot of loyalty out of Braun, who preferred to be married and dead with Hitler than alive and away from Hitler. Hitler hid her away, she was not a beard. None of his associates made that connection when interviewed after the war and Fest, Bullock and Roper were all quite close to primary sources that had no reason to lie. Fest in particular got some folks to speak in the 1990s who had never really gone on record prior. They said there was a normal relationship between Hitler and Eva B, though not specific in details.
There is a lot more evidence that he had syphilis, acquired at a whore house in WWI based on his writings (mine Kampf) and decisions regarding not having kids, early Parkinson’s symptoms, slow mental degradation and even his prewar discussions of his likely early death, when he had no reason to believe he would not live a long life. But a chap who had treated syphilis would know his long term prognosis for long life was not good.
The post about poop/other deviancies is not mentioned anywhere in any real book by a real author who has done research. Now it seems to get some notoriety folks will come up with all sorts of bizarre new interpretation of Hitler and it will be published.
Folks assume that our modern world view is the way folks thought back then, well it is not. Homo behavior was very looked down on and one of the groups the NAZIs went after were homos. It was a capitol offense in the Army. Ernst Rhom was shocking because of his homo behavior, it was not the norm and it was not something the old German vets of WWI tolerated or accepted they were a harsh bunch in many ways. The SS was a rather criminal organization, with some measure of occult pagan undertones, but not at all homo friendly. All the comments of homo-erotic nature seem to be modern perceptions of last century Germanic worldview/behavior that do not stand up to serious scholarly review. Said another way, snappy uniforms do not a gay make nor do men who had deep “comradeship” based on war experiences end up turning gay because of it. Modern Bunk.
Hitler is evil enough without making up completely baseless claims. It is far better to view history as it was to the best of our ability, rather than to make crap up or repeat idle speculation. Such talk can be used by those who would like to whitewash history, as when such theories are shown to be bunk based on primary sources, to cast doubt on the real crimes of the NAZIs.
“Seems to me folks are projecting their own modern perceptions/ worldview on to Hitler.”
Except the rumors have been around since the 30s/40s, so our modern conceptions can’t account for that. Not that I think the rumors are necessarily true, but they are not a new thing projected back on the past.
“The post about poop/other deviancies is not mentioned anywhere in any real book by a real author who has done research.”
It is well known that the origin of those stories was from reports by the OSS. If the books you are reading don’t mention that, then it may be the authors just dismissed it as propaganda, but it certainly comes from sources of the time.
It always amuses me that if Hitler or the SS is slandered, there is a certain group that is quick to rush to their defense.... all in the name of accuracy of course.
But Reich fanboys sure don’t like the truth of their faggotry being discussed.
And as for the SS not being homo? Yeah sure, several million naked Russian, Ukrainian and Polish women would dispute that. Stripping large groups of women, humiliating them and killing them isn’t exactly hetero. The SS was about as homo friendly as it gets, as was der fuhrer.
Well Ernst Rohm head of the SA (the brown shirts) ..the number 2 man of the Nazi movement was openly gay..
It’s possible he was a chinball wizard.
Truth is truth regardless of the subject.
The Germans killing off 6 million Jews (+/- 100,000) and another 5 to 6 million others in camps plus the ~45 million dead because of the war which was caused by Hitler is not related to faggotry but something else. Not defending either perversion but defending truth, at least to the extent that it can be understood by we mortals.
As to why it matters: if one assigns false narratives to a evil group it will be shown in the future to be false. One of the ways evil is repatriated in the public eye is to show that some of the accusations against evil fellows are false, and hence by implication all of the evil deeds assigned are perhaps....exaggerated. The father of lies deals in such areas. This is why it is perfectly possible for a person who is not a fan of the NAZIs in any way to insist that truth be held high and that false history be discarded.
I would say the need of certain folks to throw every negative implication on a certain group to be a sign of immaturity. Your implication of “Reich fanboy”, when the reason for the correction was stated in the first post reinforces that opinion, a basic immaturity that once a side is known to be wrong all sins must be laid at their feet, regardless of if it is true or not. Grow up child.
I would also say assigning a sexually nature to an evil group, as you ddi with the SS mass killings (held to be a criminal organization at Nuremberg)is well...weird. you are assigning utopian murder schemes as sexual in nature. That is strange, an interpretation I would expect out of a precocious 14 year old who had just read Freud for the first time.
Now you likely do not like that implication and take umbrage at my assigning a certain characteristic to you. Just giving you back that which you rendered to me. You could have debated the subject on its merits but went for a personal attack, how do you like it in reverse, little boy.
Yeah - that ‘fanboy’ comment came outta’ left field,didn’t it.
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