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To: fieldmarshaldj

Reverting the selection of Senators to pre 17th method will restore the representation of each States population. Currently only the urbanized population centers are represented or the majority voting block. Pennsylvania’s as an example. The Senate and house are both controlled by the GOP but we end up with D governors and Federal level D senators.

It’s because Philly/Pittsburgh and the other small cities are controlling state wide elections. If we get rid of the 175th then each county would have input.


100 posted on 08/31/2016 3:47:33 AM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: Clean_Sweep; Impy; fieldmarshaldj
>> It’s because Philly/Pittsburgh and the other small cities are controlling state wide elections. If we get rid of the 17th then each county would have input. <<

You have it backwards. Due to the 17th, majority Dem states will occasionally elect a Republican Senator when the Democrat candidate has weak turnout in urban areas (for example, Illinois elected Peter Fitzgerald, New York elected Al D'Amato, etc.)

If you abolish the 17th amendment, a gerrymandered state legislature will ensure ONLY the urban areas have any input as to who becomes a U.S. Senator. The Illinois State Legislature districts have been drawn to ensure Chicago controls ALL the suburban areas and has a lopsided majority in both houses. Chicago Democrat Mike Madigan (Speaker of the Illinois House for 30+ years) would choose the Senator and his fellow Chicago Dems that control the chamber would then rubber stamp the choice. The other 101 counties would have ZERO input in the process.

111 posted on 08/31/2016 9:33:49 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Clean_Sweep

No, it wouldn’t. You’re talking about something completely different. In the 1960s, SCOTUS ordered state legislative bodies redistricted to reflect population, not per county as it often used to be. You’d have to alter that via Constitutional Amendment, and that wouldn’t get a single vote because it would be seen as mass disenfranchisement of urban dwellers (left-wingers). However, changing it to reflect population has proven a travesty, where now one or two urban Democrat counties can overrule the desires of the entirety of a given state. Most egregiously in states like Delaware, IL, MI, NV, OR, PA, VA, WI.


123 posted on 08/31/2016 2:36:18 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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