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Are Jews who refuse to renounce Israel being excluded from "progressive" groups?
Gatestone Institute ^ | Alan M. Dershowitz

Posted on 08/27/2016 3:26:04 PM PDT by Lera

Hard left activists are trying to exclude Jews who do not renounce Israel from "progressive" organizations.

Last year, Rabbi Susan Talve, a longtime activist on race issues in the St. Louis area was told that her advocacy for Israel was incompatible with the objectives of Black Lives Matter: "Solidarity from Ferguson to Palestine has become a central tenet of the movement" she was informed, because "Israeli and U.S. state oppression are deeply interconnected." Similarly, a student who attended a Black Lives Matter rally at Northwestern University last year was told "you support Israel, so you cannot also support us."

Recently, that seems to be the response of many of the hard left activists who dominate so-called "progressive" social justice movements.

Over the past several years, progressive Jews, and progressive supporters of Israel have had to come to terms with the reality that those who do not reject Israel and accept Boycott Divestment Sanctions ("BDS") and its unique brand of bigotry are no longer welcome in some progressive circles. And while both Democratic and Republican parties have embraced the importance of the U.S. alliance with Israel, that dynamic is under threat more so than at any point in my lifetime.

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For hard left activists, this sort of nuanced position is impossible to accept. Their hostility towards Israel does not stem from any particular Israeli actions or policies. Even if Israel were to withdraw from the West Bank, destroy the security barrier, and recognize Hamas as a legitimate political organization, it would still not be enough. For these radicals, it is not what Israel does; it is about what Israel is: the nation state of the Jewish people--or to use hard-left terminology: an imperialistic, apartheid and genocidal, colonialist enterprise. The recently released Black Lives Matter policy platform offers a perfect example of such extreme rhetoric: it states that U.S. military and economic support for Israel makes American citizens complicit in "the genocide taking place against the Palestinian people."


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KEYWORDS: antisemitism; blm; dershowitz; israel; israelbds; progressive
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Progressives have always been about hate .
1 posted on 08/27/2016 3:26:04 PM PDT by Lera
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To: Lera

The Jews who support leftwing causes really need to wake up before they discover that they are being shipped off to a prison camp.


2 posted on 08/27/2016 3:31:39 PM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: Fai Mao

BLM would be manning the ticket booths on trains.


3 posted on 08/27/2016 3:33:09 PM PDT by healy61
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To: Fai Mao

“The Jews who support leftwing causes really need to wake up before they discover that they are being shipped off to a prison camp.”

Or whatever people like ISIS have in store for them. There have been some pretty atrocious events happening with ISIS in how they kill people. These are the people that Obama and Hillary helped nurture.


4 posted on 08/27/2016 3:34:32 PM PDT by Parley Baer (")
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To: healy61

“BLM would be manning the ticket booths on trains.”

Oh I agree with that.


5 posted on 08/27/2016 3:34:45 PM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: Lera
Jews who refuse to renounce Israel being excluded from "progressive" groups

Rabbi Susan Talve, Rabbi Susan Talve, please pick up the red courtesy telephone, your wake up call has arrived.

6 posted on 08/27/2016 3:40:24 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: Lera

The ‘progressive Jews’ (athiest Jews) are still p*ssed that Isreal aligned with the US and not Soviet Russia.


7 posted on 08/27/2016 3:42:25 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (<<<<< he no longer IS my 'teddy bear'.)
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To: Fai Mao
ho support leftwing causes really need to wake up before they discover that they are being shipped off to a prison camp.

I have had many Jewish friends over the years. Many people who call themselves Jews and are progressive, are not ones to learn from history.....I don't understand how so many brilliant people, in so many ways, can be so stupid when it comes to self preservation. Then they shake their heads ‘why’ as they are herded into cattle cars

8 posted on 08/27/2016 3:42:29 PM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Fai Mao

These Jews are going to have to be Sharia complient.


9 posted on 08/27/2016 3:44:16 PM PDT by magua
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To: Fai Mao

These secular Israel-hating Jews are a disgrace to America and a disgrace to their own people, yet they have the chutzpah to send out appeals for financial support for their special “Jewish” causes, whining about persecution, yada, yada. Screw all of those Democ-RAT bastards. And they also use gullible Christian groups to push their anti-American programs. SPIT!


10 posted on 08/27/2016 3:46:37 PM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Trump has terrified the world's elite.)
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To: Lera

Jews and Christians do not join such Satanic groups. Period. Renegades and atheists and fallen- away lost souls might join such evil cultic conspiracies. The question should be: how soon can they be banned under sedition, RICO, treason, and other laws?


11 posted on 08/27/2016 3:48:20 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: Fai Mao

Hard left activists are trying to exclude Jews who do not renounce Israel from “progressive” organizations.
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This might be their wake-up call.
I hope they hear it.
It’s getting late.


12 posted on 08/27/2016 3:58:06 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Lera

Most American Jews have been straddling the fence for 50 years, being pro-Israel when its good for them and being pro-Socialism as much as possible.

But, the Progressive Movement has taken control of their goal of a Glorious Socialist America and part of that Movement’s goals is the eradication of Israel.

So, which is more important to each American Jew, because each one needs to decide: a Jewish state on the ground previously occupied by the Israel of the Hebrew bible or a Socialist State in the New World that replaces the nominally Christian USA? Like it has become for all of us, this election is a final decision for the future of America and the world. If Hillary wins, there is no “next election to set things right”.


13 posted on 08/27/2016 4:01:34 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Lera

Good, let the hypocrites see the real hate that comes from their fellow “progressives”


14 posted on 08/27/2016 4:05:15 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Romeo + Juliet = True Love hilLIAR + Obambi = ISIS)
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To: Fai Mao

They won’t.

If they haven’t discovered that by now, they never will.

The self-hate is obvious


15 posted on 08/27/2016 4:06:33 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Romeo + Juliet = True Love hilLIAR + Obambi = ISIS)
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To: Fai Mao; ExTexasRedhead

“The Jews who support leftwing causes really need to wake up before they discover that they are being shipped off to a prison camp.”

I think that the truth of the matter is “Jews” who don’t support Israel are only people who though they came into this word via a Jewish mother, aren’t really Jews, they are just “passing” as one.


16 posted on 08/27/2016 4:11:08 PM PDT by vette6387
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Seems so. Why are they so self-destructive in their political alliances here? Enemy of my enemy (Christians) at work here, too? Miserealites.


17 posted on 08/27/2016 4:33:24 PM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough)
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To: Lera

But in this case, it is a good thing, if those ostracized vote Trump.


18 posted on 08/27/2016 4:45:22 PM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Lera

Desrschowitz’s ancestors and Natalie Portman’s and mine come from the Galitzian town of Rzeszow.


19 posted on 08/27/2016 4:52:05 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (Trump-Pence 2016: No full-term Governors!)
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To: vette6387; justiceseeker93; sheik yerbouty; Nachum; left that other site; Liz; Albion Wilde; ...

Jews who don’t support Israel and who support Hillary are Capos/Kapos. They will be judged by God and found quite lacking. Eternity won’t be pleasant for them, IMO.


20 posted on 08/27/2016 5:15:40 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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