Posted on 08/07/2016 8:20:36 AM PDT by Drango
On Dec. 13, 2000, after perhaps the most hotly contested presidential election in American history (and a Supreme Court decision that divided Americans), Al Gore did one of the most important things that keeps American democracy working: he conceded.
"Let there be no doubt: While I strongly disagree with the court's decision, I accept it," he said in a seven-minute statement. He added, "And tonight for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession."
YouTube No one expected a recount process that would drag out until December. But this year, before the ballots are even cast — much less counted — Donald Trump is signaling that he is ready to challenge the presidential election results.
"I'm telling you, Nov. 8, we'd better be careful, because that election is going to be rigged," Trump told Fox News earlier this week. "And I hope the Republicans are watching closely or it's going to be taken away from us."
His former adviser and longtime associate Roger Stone elaborated later in the week that the campaign should encourage supporters to challenge any unfavorable results.
"I think he's gotta put them on notice that their inauguration will be a rhetorical, and when I mean civil disobedience, not violence, but it will be a bloodbath," he said. "The government will be shut down if they attempt to steal this and swear Hillary in. No, we will not stand for it. We will not stand for it."
The exact consequences of that kind of message — the idea that a candidate would preemptively threaten to challenge an election's legitimacy if s/he loses — are unknowable. But it's something unusual in American politics. The U.S. certainly has had its contentious elections, recounts and questions of fairness.
But American democracy is founded on peaceful transitions. President Obama reaffirmed in a news conference Thursday that even if Trump, someone he has called "unfit" to serve in the office, were to win the presidency, Obama would do everything he could to make sure Trump is as prepared as possible in a peaceful transition.
Cries about the validity of an election are usually heard more often in third-world countries, places with authoritarian regimes lacking established democracies and fair checks and balances. They're the kinds of places the U.S. and United Nations might send election monitors. For the voting process to be called into question, experts say, it is a threat to American democracy itself.
"I think it's a dangerous game because our democracy depends upon losers having confidence that the election was fairly run," said Rick Hasen, a professor of law and political science at University of California-Irvine. "That's really what separates democracies from other places: Losers accept being on the short end of an election result. So I do think that there is reason to be concerned."
Playing with fire
Trump isn't exactly breaking completely new ground with these statements. In 2008, Republican nominee John McCain alleged in a debate that the community organizing group ACORN was going to perpetrate "one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country." There were instances of the group attempting to improperly register voters, but allegations of widespread fraud were dismissed. Obama won easily.
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Even in 1996, Republican Bob Dole alleged potential fraud on Bill Clinton's part, as NBC News' Zachary Roth wrote this week. Dole claimed Clinton, the incumbent president, was trying to legalize immigrants in the U.S. illegally in time for the election. Clinton coasted to reelection by 9 points in the popular vote and in an electoral vote landslide.
Still, while some charges of fraud in an election are not new, the magnitude of the remarks by Trump (and Stone, for that matter) is.
McCain, for example, never used the term "bloodbath." He conceded to Obama and noted the historic nature of his candidacy in being the first African-American elected to the office. McCain also said he'd lost fair and square. The "American people have spoken, and they have spoken clearly."
Donald Trump is not the first one to make these kinds of statements, although I think this is more extreme than statements we've seen in the past. Rick Hasen, professor of law and political science at the University of California-Irvine Dole, for his part, also congratulated Clinton on election night 20 years ago. When he told a crowd of his supporters that he'd done so, they began to boo and make "sharp anti-Clinton remarks." But Dole chided them.
"No, wait a minute," he said. "I've said repeatedly in this campaign that the president is my opponent, not my enemy. And I wish him well, and I pledge my support in whatever advances the cause of a better America. That's what the race is about."
Supporters of any losing candidate will inevitably and understandably be upset. Some, in the moments after learning the result, will even make allegations of having an election stolen. But leaders in a free democracy set an example.
"Donald Trump is not the first one to make these kinds of statements, although I think this is more extreme than statements we've seen in the past," Hasen said. "And this also — it's not backed up by any kind of credible claim."
An erosion in institutions
Americans' faith in government — and perhaps even democracy itself — has eroded in recent years, developing some small cracks. Trust in government is near historic lows and as Marc Hetherington, a political science professor at Vanderbilt University, pointed out to NPR last month, that makes the nation more vulnerable in crises.
Not only that, but a striking number of Americans — around a quarter — say they have "hardly any confidence" that their votes will be counted correctly, according to an AP/NORC survey conducted earlier this year.
Polarization is also as high as it's ever been, leading not only to Congressional gridlock but also to Americans genuinely distrusting each other. More than one in four Democrats and more than a third of Republicans told Pew in 2014 that the other party is "a threat to the nation's well-being."
Another factor complicating possible reactions to November: the idea of "rigging" elections has been a prominent storyline throughout the 2016 campaign in both parties. Not only has Trump charged that the general election will be rigged, he also claimed the GOP primary process was "rigged," too (before he went on to win the nomination). On the Democratic side, many Bernie Sanders supporters believed the primary process was unfair, believing the superdelegate system favored Clinton. The recent Democratic National Committee email scandal added fuel to that fire.
So it won't be much of a surprise if a sizable number of voters wake up on Nov. 9 questioning the legitimacy of the results, whichever way they go. Of course, as President Obama noted Thursday, the federal government does not run elections — the states do. With about 200,000 polling places across the U.S., pulling off widespread "rigging" would be quite a feat.
How salient could charges of rigging be?
To be clear, just a charge of a "rigged election" isn't quite reason to panic. No matter the outcome, there will (as always) be some people — usually on the losing side — who doubt the outcomes of the election. But how flammable those charges end up being depends on the outcome and how much it agrees with the polls, says one political scientist.
If the polls in November look like they do now, then I don't see much of an issue... No one will find credible charges of election fraud if it looks like a blowout in advance.
Marc Hetherington, a political science professor at Vanderbilt University "If the polls in November look like they do now, then I don't see much of an issue," Hetherington said. "No one will find credible charges of election fraud if it looks like a blowout in advance."
In a "blowout," there would be little evidence to convince a broad swath of people that the election truly was illegitimate.
But, he added, "If the polls are close as Election Day approaches, then it is a different ball of wax. Charges of fraud would have much more resonance."
(Charging that an election is "rigged" also could create an interesting quandary for Trump should he win.)
If the election is close, though, there may not be evidence of the kind Trump is talking about to suggest "rigging." Trump specifically told the Washington Post this week that he thinks rigging will take the form of voter identification fraud. But, as Hasen told NPR this week, the kind of fraud that voter ID laws are intended to counter just doesn't seem to exist.
Another reason why charges of "rigging" don't necessarily have to be dangerous: the U.S. has 240 years of generally stable democracy. According to Matthew Layton, who studies Latin-American democracies, lack of trust in the legitimacy of elections in younger or less stable democracies leads to more instability.
"More established democracies have a sort of reserve of goodwill," he said, meaning people have bought into the democratic process so firmly for so long that it's hard to shake that foundation — even when voters are as angry as they are right now.
Election fraud perpetrators should be stood against the wall and shot
there is no greater crime against the Republic
Sorry. this is is far as I got. Algore could have done "one of the most important things that keeps American democracy working": by not trying to steal the election.
They were quoting a WaPo “poll” (Zero Credibility) and their own FOX “poll” which also has zero credibility with me since they started pimping for Clintoon while she goes into her “Where’s Waldo?” mode. FOX used to be on at my house all the time. Now, all I can take is 15 or 20 minutes before I have to turn them off. FOX is the new MSN. (As though we really needed a second MSN).
Even if the system wasn’t 100% rigged, the plutocracy that runs the world will be telling the president what to do. Just like it did with Bush. Well in his case he was a willing partner. Conservative, republican. democrat, capitalist, communist. It hardly makes a difference. Just names.
Democrats are the party of vote fraud. Yes, they stole the 1960 presidential election, but Nixon decided that it would be harmful to the country to make an issue of it when he couldn’t succeed in overturning the fraud in Cook County, IL.
If NPR truly cared about “the heart of democracy” it would work to end vote fraud rather than whining about Trump’s comments.
Democrats are the kings of fraud, but the GOPe does it too when it comes to defeating conservatives, e.g., the recent Mississippi Senate race.
It’s a big gov’t thing — plunder the taxpayers and divide the spoils.
AlGore conceded, yes how many times? Seems he took back the first concession.
Albore spent weeks challenging and undermining the democratic (small ‘d’) results of the election. It is only when he reached the very end of the legal road with the Supreme Court that he “accepted” the results of the election. So much for caring about citizen respect for democracy. Albore turned it into a Supreme Court decision that he thought he could win, but he lost.
To start with we’re not a democracy.
What the Progressives forget is that America is a representative republic, not a democracy. They know how to rig mob elections.
I was a democrat for years. I know how they do voter fraud.
Trump better have observers in every precinct, watching the transport of every ballot box and the counting of every ballot. And make plans for when the Dems in big cities try to stop them. Election day is not the day to scramble to find lawyers, guns and money when the Dems send in the Black Panthers to deal with anyone interfering with them stealing an election.
We’re becoming a dictatorship.
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We need less democracy and less gov’t, and protection of individual rights and property so that the mob can’t confiscate our goods and liberty.
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Something like a...oh, what do they call it?
Ah! A Constitutional Republic. That’s it.
Maybe we can send the suggestion to the State\Fed for consideration.
The one salient point in this article:
“If the polls in November look like they do now, then I don’t see much of an issue,” Hetherington said. “No one will find credible charges of election fraud if it looks like a blowout in advance.”
Thus the narrative begins. Sanders was just a test subject for the real offensive. No reasonable person could question the results that were decided by the media and government months prior to the election.
Reasonable people don’t believe in collusion between the virginal press, the righteous politicians, and the rational academics. Reasonable people don’t question the ethics of crony businesses. Reasonable people don’t consider the fidelity of the holy banks. Reasonable people don’t ponder the motives of the pristine charitable organizations and NGOs. Reasonable people don’t listen to or read propaganda without understanding the subtext.
Simply....no
Funny, since the released emails from the DNC show that the leadership of the Democrat party RIGGED THE SYSTEM for Hitlery against Bernie.
Add to that the FACT that the entire idea of SUPERDELEGATES in the Democrat party was CREATED after 1972 in ORDER to RIG the system in favor of the party elites’ choice.
A child could see that.... but of course the media doesn’t have the brains of a child.
Wonder how many would die by throwing up their stomach linings before the rest escaped?
The Left's entire Media strategy is about "Leaving Mitt Out".
Lying by omission is still lying. I actually consider it MORE egregious.
Bingo!
It’s the transformation of the US into a democracy that has allowed all this stuff to happen.
Democracy is unlimited majority rule. No rights for individuals, no limitation on gov’t power.
That’s why I cringe to see people bemoaning threats to democracy.
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