Posted on 08/04/2016 7:46:01 AM PDT by pinochet
I was reading about how Phyllis Shlafly has attended every Republican Convention since 1952. In 1952, the conservative candidate was Sen. Robert Taft of Ohio, who was a bitter opponent of FDR's big government policies. Shlafly supported him. The establishment candidate was Gen. Eisenhower.
But who was the first prominent American conservative activist? My vote would be for Albert Jay Nock (1870-1945), who led a national intellectual movement opposed to Woodrow Wilson's big government policies. He also opposed World War One. Before Wilson came into office in 1913, America did not have an income tax. It was, therefore, not necessary for a conservative movement to exist, because America did not have big government policies.
“in 1913, America did not have an income tax. It was, therefore, not necessary for a conservative movement to exist, because America did not have big government policies.”
We can’t stress this enough. The Bible says love of money is the root of evil, well income tax is the root of government evil. If they don’t have an easy money spigot to turn on, the government has to fight with itself over every penny they want to spend.
Get rid of income tax and the Federal Reserve and 90% of our conservative goals would accomplish themselves.
Sen. Robert Taft of Ohio was known as “Mr. Conservative.”
The Establishment pushed a third party candidate, Theodore Roosevelt, to split the Republican vote and kick Robert Taft out of office.
The party was the Progressive Party (Bull Moose Party).
Robert Taft lost and Woodrow Wilson won.
Since 1776.......................
It doesn’t matter how long it existed. It’s as dead as a hammer now.
You’re getting Robert Taft and his father, President William Howard Taft, confused.
Alexander Hamilton (or George Washington).
The conservatives then were the Tories.
Labels and names change but the ideology doesn’t. In Australia, the terms ‘Liberal’ and ‘Conservative’ are flipped from US meanings................
The Establishment pushed a third party candidate, Theodore Roosevelt, to split the Republican vote and kick Robert Taft out of office.
The party was the Progressive Party (Bull Moose Party).
Robert Taft lost and Woodrow Wilson won.
You just derped.
Robert Taft lost to Eisenhower in 1952. Theodore Roosevelt had been dead for 33 years and had nothing to do with it.
In 1912 TR took votes away from Robert Taft's father, President William Howard Taft, enabling Wilson to win that year.
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How Long Has a Conservative Movement Existed in America?There is no "conservative movement".
You could gather all the self-proclaimed "conservatives" in a group (like here) and all you would get is arguments, with no results, about what "conservatism" is...Just like you get here everyday.
Since before 1776.
Up until recently conservatives weren’t called “conservative”.
They were called things like “American”, “patriot”, and “normal”.
“It doesn’t matter how long it existed. It’s as dead as a hammer now.”
On the national level, yup. We have been wiped out in eight consecutive presidential elections. Not one conservative nominee for any major party since 1984.
I love that painting.
We have a large one nicely framed hanging in the most prominent place in our living room.
So Nock to Buckley to Russell Kirk to RIP.
The term “conservative” as used in America has two meanings.
We usually think of it as a constitutionalist, and by extension, its a classic liberal rooted in the Judeo-Christian world view.
But it can also mean a traditionalist. While these two are not mutually exclusive, they aren’t the same thing. The two kinds of conservatives often wind up on the same side of things, but not always. It can get confusing because people don’t always distinguish between the two.
Its possible to revere the form without understanding or even agreeing with the principle.
So true. That’s what I admired about the TEA party movement. The narrow focus of the “Taxed Enough Already.” movement was fiscal sanity and accountability. Unfortunately its popularity caused its own demise as fringe groups, all with their personal axes to grind, climbed on board and sought to reshape the movement to fit their agendas.
They may have been well-intended, but their efforts to organize an organic movement into an institution ruined it.
From what I’ve read since ‘97—I wasn’t there, Charley!— Jefferson, movement aside, was prolly one of the first real”conservatives.”
He, and Frankin, were conveniently assigned overseas during the formative years just after the DOI, but he later became POTUS-3...he apparently stuck fast to our first (Republic) constitution but later after becoming potus accepted some of the big gubmint/big biz/big everything curse of Hamilton.
From then on... well....., it is now self-evident what has been long coming but the certain result!
And that’s the name of that toon!
Dick G
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Thomas Jefferson (April 13, 1743 (April 2, 1743 O.S.) – July 4, 1826) was an American Founding Father, the principal author of the Declaration of Independence (1776) and the third President of the United States (1801–1809). At the beginning of the American Revolution, he served in the Continental Congress, representing Virginia and then served as a wartime Governor of Virginia (1779–1781). Just after the war ended, from mid-1784 Jefferson served as a diplomat, stationed in Paris. In May 1785, he became the United States Minister to France.
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