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Watch the Navy Send a Retired Frigate Out With a Bang
Popular Mechanics ^ | July 18th, 2016 | By Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 07/18/2016 5:12:43 PM PDT by Mariner

The United States Navy and its allies recently laid siege to a retired frigate in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. It was all part of a SINKEX, or sinking exercise, that tested the missiles and big guns of modern navies against an actual warship.

Every two years, as part of the multinational Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) exercises, the US Navy tows a retired warship out to sea. Then the U.S. military, along with allied forces, blow it to smithereens.

The USS Thach was an Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate. Commissioned in 1979, it was named after Jimmy Thach, a World War II F4F Wildcat pilot who invented the famous "Thach Weave" fighter formation to counter the Japanese Zero fighter.

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The top of the page at the link shows what a Mk-48 torpedo will do. It almost broke the ship in half.

The Navy had a lot of stories as to why they wanted to retire these 50+ platforms before the end of their service life and none of them made any sense at all.

1. Slow. 30+knots for a Frigate ain't bad.

2. Can't take a hit. This article show that is NOT the case. Real action shows the same.

The combined SM-1 missile is retired. Really? These ships could be re-fitted for other launchers and other weapons. Relatively cheap.

Instead the Admirals and Pentagon employees took jobs with Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics right after the LCS contracts were awarded.

And all the Congressmen involved got all the money they needed for reelection and every one of their family and close friends got do-nothing jobs with the same companies.

This is the kind of malfeasance that a responsible POTUS would end. And, if we still have ANY of these ships left in mothball, they'll be sent for refit ASAP.

1 posted on 07/18/2016 5:12:44 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Frigate frigging outstanding!


2 posted on 07/18/2016 5:18:25 PM PDT by rey
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To: Mariner

That’s one tough old ship.


3 posted on 07/18/2016 5:19:02 PM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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To: Mariner

SINKEX 2016 appears to have been a failure. The old girl didn’t sink.


4 posted on 07/18/2016 5:21:22 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Jeff Head

ping


5 posted on 07/18/2016 5:21:40 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Instead the Admirals and Pentagon employees took jobs with Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics right after the LCS contracts were awarded.

And all the Congressmen involved got all the money they needed for reelection and every one of their family and close friends got do-nothing jobs with the same companies.

...

You’re probably right. Military procurement has long been a source of crooked behavior.


6 posted on 07/18/2016 5:22:48 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Mariner

I was on the Kennedy (CVA-67) and I know for a fact she would do 32 knots. A frigate needs to be faster than that.

As for survivability, all the fuel and explosives were removed so there were no secondary explosions. Note the bulge in the aft part of the ship at the front of the helicopter landing pad. That would have taken out the propulsion and left her dead in the water and possibly without power.


7 posted on 07/18/2016 5:33:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: Mariner

You could see that she broke her back in at least 2 places.
Friggen MK-48!


8 posted on 07/18/2016 5:34:13 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: Mariner

I just saw a “Dogfights” episode where F4F (I think) pilots were doing a Thach Weave.


9 posted on 07/18/2016 5:36:06 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Mariner

I laugh at the prospect of ending government corruption like I do at the prospect of ending poverty.

Both are self-sustaining and too attractive to give up without dire consequences.

We haven’t got the guts for dire consequences.


10 posted on 07/18/2016 5:42:05 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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I would think it would be tough to watch if you had served on that ship. I attended the decommissioning of my uncle’s submarine and after it was over with the crowd still there a tug towed it away backwards. It seems like a very undignified end for a boat with so many achievements.


11 posted on 07/18/2016 6:01:00 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Socialists are just communists in their larval stage.)
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Ex-surface line. Yeah, it’s tough to watch. BTT


12 posted on 07/18/2016 6:03:53 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: rey
30+knots for a frigate ain't bad...As opposed to the great naval man Arleigh Burke, who's nickname was "31 knot Burke".
13 posted on 07/18/2016 6:06:24 PM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: Mariner

No combustibles sure would help a vessel survive longer.
The torpedoes are the deadliest weapon against a ship.

Does kind of make one wonder how an Iowa class BB would stand up
to hits like this.

I heard that an Iraqi anti-ship missie was guiding on the Wisconsin but
a Royal Navy destroyer shot it down. Like, to see a corroboration
of that.


14 posted on 07/18/2016 6:07:18 PM PDT by Rockpile (GOP legislators-----caviar eating surrender monkeys.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"A frigate needs to be faster than that."

Not really.

The Destroyers and Cruisers do.

For 99%, at least, of the time all ships are in transit at 14-16kts.

If a CBG needs to reposition quickly, there's always at least two DDG's that can run with it if they have the fuel aboard.

And CVN's rarely advance faster than their subs and DDG's can keep up.

The role of a modern Frigate is to patrol the Persian Gulf and South China Sea radiating fire control radars to harass, escort of Amphibious units...and to aid in AAW/ASW for CBGs...where they can.

Sometimes just simple presence to deter untoward activities at sea.

15 posted on 07/18/2016 6:08:59 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

They should have run it aground on Scarborough Shoals.


16 posted on 07/18/2016 6:13:03 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Delta 21
Friggen MK-48!

Those things are HUGE! I got a chance to see them up close touring a Los Angeles class boat while I was teaching a course in Groton. The 48's make the torpedoes carried on destroyers look like toys.

I couldn't believe how much space the bubbleheads had aboard that boat. Coming from an Adams class DDG, the sub looked immense by comparison.

17 posted on 07/18/2016 6:16:29 PM PDT by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not accomplishments; they're jobs.)
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"No combustibles sure would help a vessel survive longer."

The MK-48 hit directly below the gun mount where weapons store would be.

A 500lb bomb hit directly above the engine room.

She would have been conclusively and rapidly sunk by either.

18 posted on 07/18/2016 6:19:51 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I wish it were an Iranian ship in the Persian Gulf. Those A-H’s need some whup-ass.


19 posted on 07/18/2016 6:38:09 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Islam is a cancer on civilization.)
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To: Mariner

That looks like fun.


20 posted on 07/18/2016 6:52:54 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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