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Russia's Newest Law: No Evangelizing Outside of Church
Christianity Today ^ | 7/8/2016 | Kate Shellnutt

Posted on 07/11/2016 5:26:47 AM PDT by HLPhat

...Christians in Russia won’t be allowed to email their friends an invitation to church or to evangelize in their own homes if Russia’s newest set of surveillance and anti-terrorism laws are enacted.

The proposed laws, considered the country’s most restrictive measures in post-Soviet history, place broad limitations on missionary work, including preaching, teaching, and engaging in any activity designed to recruit people into a religious group.

To share their faith, citizens must secure a government permit through a registered religious organization, and they cannot evangelize anywhere besides churches and other religious sites. The restrictions even apply to activity in private residences and online....



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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; antichristianbigotry; censorship; freedomofreligion; russia; sameolrussia
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To: HLPhat; lightman; Kolokotronis

Her’s a better discussion of the law, which is controversial in Russia, and may well be modified:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/june/no-evangelizing-outside-of-church-russia-proposes.html

I still stand by my original assertion that some “Western”-backed sects operating in the Orthodox world are subversive, and are backed by obama, Soros, and the EU, etc. The goal is to make Russia—and Serbia, Ukraine, etc. subservient to the New World Order,and to destroy the Orthodox Church!

And I am NO “Comrade”!!!! How many thousands of Orthodox delivers became martyrs and confessors under the Bolshevik yoke? How many hundreds of Holy Orthodox Temples were demolished by the Bolsheviks?

Perhaps the worst part of this Russian law is that it will give Imam obama and Crooked Hillary ideas for how to destroy Christianity in the U.S.—including the Holy Orthodox Church!!! But they may well have these ideas in their corrupt heads already, as well as alternative ways (i.e., the “gays”) to accomplish their evil goals!!!!


41 posted on 07/11/2016 7:41:58 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: HLPhat; lightman; Kolokotronis

....”Orthodox delivers”...

That should be “Orthodox believers”!!!!

I haver a spell-checker that betrays me!!!!


42 posted on 07/11/2016 7:44:20 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: HLPhat

Sounds like they are reviving the religious laws under Tsarist times. These will be used against anyone that the Russian Orthodox Church (which is a branch of the government) deems to be heretics or schismatics. That includes Catholics, Protestants, Old Believers, Dukhabors, etc. These laws won’t be used against moslems because Russia has had a long history of being warmly accommodating to moslems.


43 posted on 07/11/2016 7:55:56 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

The Russian Orthodox Church has NOT been a branch of the government since 1917!!!!

Originally the Bolsheviks heavily persecuted the Church. Then—starting with WWII—Stalin encouraged the Church, in order to rally the people to fight the war. However, he put his agents (KGB) into the Church, and continued to persecute “noncompliant” believers (e.g., Solzhenitsyn).

The Church has been moving away form this subversion, especially after the fall of communism. But—as in Byzantium—it operates independently but in “symphony” with the state.


44 posted on 07/11/2016 8:05:51 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: HLPhat
The REAL issue is that missionaries of protestant sects—which call Russia “unreached territory” and do not consider Orthodox to be “real Christians”—

Those are the same ones who don't believe that Catholics are "real Christians" either. They forget that God looks upon the heart, not the form of worship.

45 posted on 07/11/2016 8:11:56 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Madam Theophilus

The purpose of this law is the same as Communist era anti religious laws, speech codes on campuses, and other laws that restrict speech, debate, or criticism, religious or not.

They are intended to restrict and shape public discussions in ways that benefit elites, the establishment, or favored groups.

In Russia’s case the Putin government and his tame church (I admire Orthodoxy as faith, but not the Russian Church’s alliance with Putin). Government sanctioned religion is never a good idea.

This is little different than campus leaders restricting Christian groups and permitting Muslim groups special considerations, and creating “safe spaces” free of dissent. It is not the job of government to take sides for or against religions, ideologies, ethnic groups, etc....


46 posted on 07/11/2016 8:55:21 AM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.)
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To: HLPhat

She is going after the muzzies.


47 posted on 07/11/2016 9:19:03 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: HLPhat

What the hell are your talking about? I think you need to come into the 21st Century. The Berlin wall came down 26 years ago. The Russian Orthodox Church had nothing to do with Communism. Communist Russia is dead.


48 posted on 07/11/2016 9:58:56 AM PDT by Roger Kaputnik (Just because I'm paranoid doesn't prove that they aren't out to get me.)
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To: SIRTRIS

Well, good! Door knockers like the JWs need to take a clue. That includes the standing JWs at street corners holding the AWAKE pamphlet.

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Well, the Mormon church has announced that they will obey the new Russian law. (A few less “door knockers” in Russia).


49 posted on 07/11/2016 12:25:51 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: drop 50 and fire for effect
What you state is a political philosophy that was formed from the second generation of the Reformation and began to be instituted for the first time nationally under our Constitution. The only American colony to hold to this opinion prior to this was Rhode Island. All the other colonies had state churches and had theological tests for holding political office. These requirements gradually were dropped once the Constitution was ratified. Eastern Orthodoxy has never had a reformation and believes that the state and church are united under God. From this viewpoint, part of the God given duties of "the state" to enforce the purity of "the faith" under the guidance of the "the church." Russia seems to continue to let people hold to their own personal beliefs, but they now no longer have the legal right to persuade others of them outside of their religious worship. Again, just to be clear, I'm not saying I agree with the policy. Only that I recognize that it means Russia is returning to a more traditional society after a very brief experiment in modernism.
50 posted on 07/11/2016 1:58:15 PM PDT by Madam Theophilus (iI)
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To: Roger Kaputnik

>>What the hell are your talking about?

You mean other than self-evident Human Nature and 3000+ years of history?

Ne-Bu-Chad-Ne-Zar!

Same ol’ Ba’alshyte, different municipal toilet.


51 posted on 07/11/2016 6:43:14 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: JimRed

>>God looks upon the heart, not the form of worship.

Yep.


52 posted on 07/11/2016 6:44:10 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

>>Sounds like they are reviving the religious laws under Tsarist times.

Yep, that’s what it sounds like to me too.

Ne-bu-chad-ne-zar!


53 posted on 07/11/2016 6:45:47 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: ilovesarah2012

>>How long until this happens here?

Already happening in some churches. They just don’t have state powers... yet.


54 posted on 07/11/2016 6:47:23 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Honorary Serb

Ne-bu-chad-ne-zar!

Good luck with that.


55 posted on 07/11/2016 6:48:03 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: HLPhat

Whatever, dude. I don’t speak computer/ blogger gibberish or whatever that is. Don’t waste any more of your or my time posting that stuff.


56 posted on 07/11/2016 9:52:44 PM PDT by Roger Kaputnik (Just because I'm paranoid doesn't prove that they aren't out to get me.)
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To: HLPhat
Aimed squarely at islammic terrorism
57 posted on 07/13/2016 6:58:38 AM PDT by ganeemead
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To: Roger Kaputnik

>>Whatever, dude.

There is no god but the Tzar!

https://books.google.com/books?id=SvpAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161&dq=Nebuchadnezzar+%22There+is+no+god+but+the+tzar%22&source=bl&ots=q7SW40hkBg&sig=n1vq_N89fTWb0fdAHt9HzldOT1c&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiP59Kb9_DNAhWILyYKHdYuAf4Q6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=Nebuchadnezzar%20%22There%20is%20no%20god%20but%20the%20tzar%22&f=false

Not quite the same sentiment constituted by America’s founders in the 1st amendment of this Republic, is it - “dude”.


58 posted on 07/13/2016 10:08:59 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: ganeemead

“I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN”
—The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
—Thomas Jefferson, 1786
https://www.google.com/webhp?#q=truth%20is%20great%20and%20will%20prevail%20if%20left%20to%20herself

What was that aimed squarely (and on the level) at?


59 posted on 07/13/2016 10:11:24 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Honorary Serb; Jim Robinson
>>I still stand by my original assertion that some “Western”-backed sects operating in the Orthodox world are subversive

The entire notion of freedom of religion, articulated in the Virginia Act for Establishing Religious FREEDOM, is subversive to the nature of state-established theocratic tyranny.

And THANK GOD for that!

60 posted on 07/13/2016 10:37:06 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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