Posted on 07/11/2016 2:42:01 AM PDT by nikos1121
Edited on 07/11/2016 3:01:49 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
I've come full circle on choices for VP. Sarah Palin to Condi Rice to Newt, Rand Paul, Paul LePage and Chris Christie.
In the past few days, General Flynn has been thrown out there.
It looks like Pence has been the choice for some time now. And I take my hat off to many here who predicted this weeks ago.
LIKE ONYX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An article was posted here last week:
Pence has 10 days to accept VP nod from Trump http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3446588/posts
Now that we presume he is the choice, it makes a lot of sense, and once again shows that Trump is thinking of the best people. NO doubt Bobby Knight had something to do with this.
In short, Mike Pence is a dynamite choice. He will fire up the republican base to come out strong. He assures in Indiana and maybe even Ohio too.
Here are the salient facts from Wikipedia
Michael Richard "Mike" Pence (born June 7, 1959) is an American politician and attorney who is currently serving as the 50th Governor of Indiana, taking office in 2013. A member of the Republican Party, he previously represented Indiana's 6th congressional district in the United States House of Representatives from 2001 to 2013 and served as Chairman of the House Republican Conference from 2009 to 2011.
Early life, education, and family.
Pence was born in Columbus, Indiana, one of six children of Nancy Jane (née Cawley) and Edward J. Pence, Jr., who ran a string of gas stations.His family were Irish Catholic Democrats.He was named after his grandfather, Richard Michael Cawley, a Chicago bus driver who came to the United States from Ireland through Ellis Island. He graduated from Columbus North High School in 1977. Pence earned a B.A. in History from Hanover College in 1981 and a J.D. from the Indiana University Robert H. McKinney School of Law in 1986. While at Hanover, Pence joined the Phi Gamma Delta fraternity, serving as his chapter's president.
Pence and his wife Karen have three children: Michael, Charlotte, and Audrey. Pence is a declared Christian. During his service in the U.S. House, the Pence family lived in Arlington, Virginia when Congress was in session.
Tenure
Pence served for a time as the chairman of the Republican Study Committee, a group of conservative House Republicans.
His Committee assignments in the U.S. House included: Foreign Affairs, Subcommittee on Middle East and South Asia (Vice Chair), Judiciary, Subcommittee on the Constitution (Vice Chair), and Subcommittee on Intellectual Property, Competition, and the Internet. While in Congress he belonged to the Congressional Internet Caucus, International Conservation Caucus, Sportsmen's Caucus, and the Tea Party Caucus.
Economy
Pence was a cosponsor of a Spending Limit Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. This amendment would limit federal spending to one-fifth of the American economy – the historical average since World War II.
Earmarks
Pence was a supporter of earmark reform. He voted against the $139.7 billion transportation-treasury spending bill in June 2006, and in favor of a series of amendments proposed that same month by Jeff Flake that would strip other members’ earmarks from the federal budget. Pence, on occasion, secured earmark projects such as $500,000 for the “Transit Acquisition and Intermodal Facility Project” in his state, as well as $250,000 for construction of a park in Portland. Pence secured earmarks for inclusion in a labor-health and human services 2007FY bill. This included $200,000 for both Ball State University’s Center for School Innovation in Muncie and to the Madison County Community Health Center in Anderson. Pence also secured $100,000 for Ivy Tech Community College in Columbus.
Immigration laws
In June 2006, Pence unveiled a plan he describes as "no amnesty immigration reform", consisting of increased border security, followed by strict enforcement of laws against hiring illegal aliens, and a guest worker program. This guest worker program requires potential participants to apply from their home country to government-approved job placement agencies that match workers with employers who cannot find Americans for the job.The plan received support from conservative leaders such as Dick Armey.Pat Buchanan, writing at WorldNetDaily, described this as "stealth amnesty," claiming that it is merely a "one week vacation" for illegal immigrants to return to their home country to apply for jobs under the program.Conservatives Phyllis Schlafly and Tom Tancredo criticized Pence's plan.
Foreign policy
Pence supported the joint resolution authorizing military action against Iraq, otherwise known as the Iraq Resolution.The resolution cited factors including Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 ceasefire agreement, including interference with U.N. weapons inspectors, Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population," and Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt on former President George H. W. Bush and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War as reasons for taking action.
During the Iraq War, Pence opposed setting a public withdrawal date from Iraq. During an April 2007 visit to Baghdad, Pence and John McCain visited Shorja market, the site of a deadly attack in February, 2007, that claimed the lives of 61 people. Pence and McCain described the visit as evidence that the security situation in Iraqi markets have improved.[35] The visit to the market took place under large security including helicopters overhead, and was was criticized by The New York Times as giving a false indication of how secure the area was due to the extremely heavy security forces McCain brought with him.
Pence has opposed closing the Guantanamo Bay detention camp and trying the suspected terrorists in the U.S. Pence believes that “the Obama administration must overturn this wrongheaded decision”.As an alternative, Pence has said that the "enemy combatants" should be tried in a military tribunal.
Pence has stated his support of Israel and its right to attack facilities in Iran to prevent them from developing nuclear weapons, has defended the actions of Israel in its use of deadly force in enforcing the blockade of Gaza, and has referred to Israel as "America's most cherished ally".
LGBT rights
In 2000, Pence stated “Congress should oppose any effort to recognize homosexual's as a ‘discreet and insular minority’ entitled to the protection of anti-discrimination laws similar to those extended to women and ethnic minorities.” He called for “an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organisations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus” and instead advocated that resources be directed towards conversion therapy programs.
Pence has said that homosexuals should not serve in the military, saying "Homosexuality is incompatible with military service because the presence of homosexuals in the ranks weakens unit cohesion" and in 2010 stated that repealing Don't ask, don't tell would "have an impact on unit cohesion."Pence opposed the 2009 Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Act, saying that Obama wanted to "advance a radical social agenda"and said that pastors "could be charged or be subject to intimidation for simply expressing a Biblical worldview on the issue of homosexual behavior."
Pence opposes both same-sex marriage and civil unions.He has referred to Harvard sociologist Pitirim Sorokin's findings that throughout history, societal collapse was brought about by the deterioration of marriage and family.
He has advocated a constitutional same-sex marriage ban, but did not champion such a proposed ban for his first year as governor.
Other
In 2005, after Hurricane Katrina struck the Louisiana coast, Pence favored offsetting the costs of the hurricane with $24 billion in other spending reductions.
Pence is an advocate of federal restrictions of online gambling. In 2006, he and 34 others members of the House cosponsored H.R. 4411, the Goodlatte-Leach Internet Gambling Prohibition Act,and H.R. 4777, the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act.
After the Supreme Court of the United States upheld the Affordable Care Act on June 28, 2012, Pence, in a closed door meeting, said that the ruling upholding the health care law was similar to the September 11 terrorist attacks.He immediately apologized for making the statement.
I was impressed with him when I heard his speech, at Hillsdale college in 2010, on the Constitution and the presidency. I pictured George Washington. Very dignified, very soft-spoken, yet very strong.
I agree with you insofar as picking a younger running mate would set up a potential successor down the line.
I could accept Newt (as if I have a choice), but I don’t think he’d be a good pick for a number of reasons.
I don’t have any use for Mike Pence because he endorsed Ted Cruz. That means he’s either an idiot or playing politics.
Allen West would be a great VP!
CAIR Confronts Allen West (with subtitles)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CVK4c2qu3M
Allen B West - Orlando Shooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih6VaQD9zNw
Here is an age chart worth considering:
Reagan in 1980 69
Bush 41 in 1980 56
Bush 43 in 2000 54
Cheney in 2000 59
Trump 70
Gingrich 73
Pence 57
As for Cruz, I started out supporting Cruz and switched to Trump. Does that make me an idiot or playing politics?
Trump went from almost no support to winning the nomination. Should he have done that without people switching over to him from other candidates?
Is everyone who switched from someone else to Trump an idiot or playing politics?
There might be an idiot here, but I’m not so sure it’s the people who switched from other candidates to Trump.
I did not realize he had endorsed Ted Cruz. I thought Pence was too liberal and establishment for that. Regardless of the merits of Ted Cruz, that took some cojones. You may convince me he’s not so bad after all!
Tangent to the news media is Congress and the Senate and who do you want on your ticket as an insurance policy? I.E. No more 41's even Nancy didn't want "The Elder". I don't see Pence succumbing to Washingtionian's disease, i.e. getting more liberal the more he is in office or cutting deals with ne'er–do–wells. On that last point, he might be the guy...
TRUMP/PENCE 2016
Best choice!
The media in 2016 is hardly the media in 1860.
I like Pence and at one time thought he would make a decent VP for TRump.
But now, I do not see how he helps Trump beat Hillary. He is not the attack dog needed to over come Hillary, the Democrats, the GOPe and the media. Plus I see Pence as a loyal water carrier for the party. Like most of the GOPe, party first then country.
My guess is, Pence is on the short list to replace Trump as the nominee or to insure the GOPe self serving prophecies of gloom & doom if Trump is the nominee.
Pence has far more political experience than Dan Quayle ever had or to this day possesses. I knew someone who attended a private meeting with Quayle in 1990 when he was GHW Bush’s VP. His comment afterward was that Quayle came across like a frat boy, not a leader. Bush did the man (or himself in the end) no favors in selecting Quayle at that age and stage in his political career. Pence would be a serious choice and would complement Trump very well.
He handled that bakery thingie very badly. He is going to be chewed up by MSM.
“As for Cruz, I started out supporting Cruz and switched to Trump. Does that make me an idiot or playing politics?”
Pence endorsed Cruz shortly before the important Indiana primary. By this time, Cruz had more than exposed himself as a liar and charlatan - thumping the Bible as he planned his next dirty trick. If Pence didn’t see Cruz for what he was by that time, he’s not very perceptive. If he DID see and endorsed Cruz for political reasons I don’t have much respect for him, either.
I’m certainly not calling people idiots who started out supporting Cruz and switched over to Trump - it took a while for the guy’s true (lack of) character to show through. In the beginning, I cheered Cruz and thought he would make a great running mate. That, of course, changed as time went on.
NO. Weak-kneed. We need a real leader, not a guy who runs and hides in terror from the Gaystapo.
Same convictions except on trade and immigration (and possibly terrorism) ??
“...he will eat away at Hillary’s women vote. The guy is handsome, and very manly!”
God help us if “handsome” and “manly” are reasons for people to vote for a candidate. I look forward to the day when women cast votes using their brains instead of their feelings. Handsome and manly don’t hurt, but aren’t priorities. Of course, you are referring to Hillary’s voters, and most don’t have brains anyhow. Things that make you go “Hmmmm... .”
Quayle...got elected
Used to listen to him on the radio. Glad you mentioned it because if isn’t always mentioned in the articles about him. Good common sense with a quick wit IIRC
If the events of the last three weeks haven’t convinced the Rubios and the Bushes that our only hope is Trump, picking Pence isn’t going to make a dent.
No decision has to be made soon so he can step out of governor race.
If he wants to. If Pence has his own eye on the presidency then he may want to wait. Two terms as Indiana governor would line him up for a shot at the White House in 2020 if Hillary wins, or 2024 if Trump wins.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.