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To: freedom44

We did side with the Shah. But for the years after Vietnam, Watergate, and the oil embargo, we were too scared as a nation to do bold things like defend him when the idiot college students and theocrats threatened him.


6 posted on 07/03/2016 1:14:37 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: Bryanw92

Just asking who you mean by “we”. Carter did not side with the Shah.


8 posted on 07/03/2016 1:16:38 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Bryanw92

Iran did not join the oil embargo.


21 posted on 07/03/2016 1:31:44 PM PDT by freedom44
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A bold president would have used what was happening to cure the Vietnam sickness. He should have gone to congress and requested a declaration of war. This had not been done since WW2 and it would have shut up the anti-war crowd who always used teh fact that the Vietnam was not a declared war. Maybe initiate the draft again. I was a kid at the time but I remember lots of patriotic anger at that time.

Then this hypothetical president would have made a deal with the USSR not to get involved in arming the resistance. We would have had to allow the Soviets a free hand in Afghanistan but we now know the world and the USA would have been better off if we had done that.

We invade Iran. Occupy it with our large drafted army and enforce secularization and install the Shah's kid as a constitutional westernizing monarch. Do to Iran what we did to the Japanese and their fanatic Shinto-Bushido religion.

Iran would be America's base of operation to this day and the Middle East would have been a better place. No Iran/Iraq war, and no 9/11 because we stayed out of Afghanistan.

The USSR falls the same way at the same time - maybe collapses even earlier due to cheap oil.

58 posted on 07/03/2016 8:33:19 PM PDT by Trumpinator ("Are you Batman?" the boy asked. "I am Batman," Trump said. youtube.com/watch?v=HZA9k7WAuiY)
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