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Officers waited for SWAT at Orlando Pulse Shooting
Ammoland ^ | 27 June, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/27/2016 5:21:31 PM PDT by marktwain

Orlando Pulse early in Massacre

Early response outside of Pulse from Cell Phone Video

Details are emerging about the Orlando Pulse Massacre.  It is clear that some of the first impressions were false.

First, there was not any initial exchange of fire inside of the club.  Officers did not fire at the murderer in the club, or he at them, until the last few minutes, three hours later, when SWAT officers broke into the bathrooms through a wall.

There was an initial exchange of gunfire, but it was outside of the club.  The off duty police officer/security officer quickly disengaged as the murderer entered the club while firing.  It is precisely the scenario that John Lott has often predicted.  If a security officer is known, a person planning a mass killing will determine a way to take them out with a surprise attack, find a way to bypass them, or avoid them.

Second, there was some time from the initial shooting until police mounted an armed response.  The police response was very quick.  Additional officers arrived at the scene, formed up, broke out a large window, and went in.  But it still took time.  It appears about six minutes passed from the initial shots until the police entered the Pulse club.  During that period, the murderer was shooting and killing people inside the club.  The shooting continued as the police entered.

Link to video from cell phone outside of the club, early in the shooting

Once in the club, the officers could not locate the murderer.  They were uncertain how many there might be.  They continued to hear shots, and determined that the shooter was in the bathroom area.  They did not shoot at the murderer.  It does not appear that he fired

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; islamicterror; orlando; orlandoswatteam; orlandoterrorattack; swat
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To: smokingfrog

“I’m not sure how many the shooter trapped in the bathroom. They probably didn’t have much of a chance of making it out alive.”

One report said there were 30 in one handicaped stall, and only one survived. I do not know if that has been confirmed.


41 posted on 06/27/2016 7:16:21 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I guess the powers that be told SWAT - get you guys wanna shot at this?


42 posted on 06/27/2016 7:26:04 PM PDT by George Washington Axe
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To: marktwain

Some of the people ran to a 7-11 across the street and the clerk called 911 but it was busy. The clerk put napkins on the wounds and duct tape around the napkins and the poor people had to WALK TO THE HOSPITAL!


43 posted on 06/27/2016 7:33:00 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Trump is exposing the fifth column in the U.S.)
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To: bobby.223

My guess is the 53 wounded survivors were only lightly wounded or were lucky enough to be in the area where LE could evacuation them. Anyone seriously wounded died in the 3 hour delay. So those that made it out to the hospital were highly likely to survive since all the borderline cases were long gone.


44 posted on 06/27/2016 7:36:16 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: TigersEye

2:35am – Mateen calls 911 and pledges allegiance to ISIS and Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
4:21am – Police rip out an air conditioning unit, creating a hole through which some people escape.

This has to have been the longest two hours of any hostages life. What in the Sam Hell were the cops doing during this time? Didn’t the SWAT team have night vison equipment? Something is not making sense here!


45 posted on 06/27/2016 7:52:41 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.")
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To: B4Ranch

When seconds count, the police are hours away.


46 posted on 06/27/2016 7:55:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Very interesting. Much more will come out on this. Too many survivors, too many witnesses, too many recordings to cover it up.


47 posted on 06/27/2016 8:04:07 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: sheikdetailfeather

>>Some of the people ran to a 7-11 across the street and the clerk called 911 but it was busy. The clerk put napkins on the wounds and duct tape around the napkins and the poor people had to WALK TO THE HOSPITAL!<<

That makes me think this was a training event. In a real shooting, ambulances would have lined the street for a mile.


48 posted on 06/27/2016 8:09:22 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.")
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To: B4Ranch

7-Eleven clerk acted quickly to save Pulse victims

http://www.fox35orlando.com/news/local-news/163951813-story


49 posted on 06/27/2016 8:20:42 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Trump is exposing the fifth column in the U.S.)
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To: TigersEye

50 posted on 06/28/2016 2:28:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: B4Ranch

They were hanging out at Dunkin Donuts across the street


51 posted on 06/28/2016 7:49:55 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom yes I know john 3:16)
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To: B4Ranch

I agree. It’s bizarre. The first I heard about this was seeing that graphic posted here two days ago. Not much coverage of this. None of the victims or their families are hollering about it?


52 posted on 06/28/2016 8:24:14 AM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Travis McGee

Dumb and Dumber!


53 posted on 06/28/2016 8:25:45 AM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye

Now the FBI has ‘lost track’ of Noor Mateen. BS!! They would have had her under surveillance. Obama gave her a free ticket out of the US.


54 posted on 06/28/2016 4:58:47 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.")
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To: B4Ranch

Agreed again. Not at all believable.

Forget the hip waders. The BS is so deep now we need submarines.


55 posted on 06/28/2016 7:15:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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