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A Born-Again Donald Trump? Believe It, Evangelical Leader Says
The New York Times ^ | 6/25/16 | TRIP GABRIEL and MICHAEL LUO

Posted on 06/25/2016 7:32:38 PM PDT by Faith Presses On

Has Donald J. Trump become a born-again Christian?

That is the suggestion of James C. Dobson, one of America’s leading evangelicals, who said Mr. Trump had recently come “to accept a relationship with Christ” and was now “a baby Christian.”

Dr. Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family and one of the country’s most prominent social conservatives, gave his account at a meeting Mr. Trump had in New York on Tuesday with hundreds of Christian conservatives.

In an interview recorded at the event by a Pennsylvania pastor, the Rev. Michael Anthony, Dr. Dobson said he knew the person who had led Mr. Trump to Christ, though he did not name him.

“I don’t know when it was, but it has not been long,” Dr. Dobson said. “I believe he really made a commitment, but he’s a baby Christian.”

Mr. Anthony posted the interview to his blog on Friday. Dr. Dobson could not be reached on Saturday, and Hope Hicks, the Trump campaign spokeswoman, did not respond Saturday to a request for details.

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In his interview, Dr. Dobson conceded that Mr. Trump did not exactly fit the typical mold of an evangelical.

“He used the word ‘hell’ four or five times,” he said. “He doesn’t know our language.” He added that Mr. Trump “refers a lot to religion and not much to faith and belief.”

For evangelicals, the heart of Christianity is a faith-based dependence on God. They often contrast this with what they characterize as merely “religion,” which they view as more rules and rituals-based.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bornagain; christians; jamesdobson; trump; trumpbornagain; trumpchristian
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To: Albion Wilde

Depends on HOW the word is used.

If it is meant as an intensifier for something good, then it is a misuse (like hell yes, rednecks built America). One could speak of a hell of a mess, though.


61 posted on 06/26/2016 11:29:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: D-fendr

However who is the judge of the meaningless? Man, or God? C. S. Lewis fell short here.


62 posted on 06/26/2016 11:31:13 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Southnsoul
David Jeremiah is a sound, biblical pastor and a fine godly man as is Mr. Falwell Jr, Mr. Graham, Mr. Jeffress, Mr. Dobson, etc.

James Dobson is not a pastor. His PhD is in child development from USC and began his career as a hospital psychologist. He has a deeply stubborn, judgmental streak that often comes through in his broadcasts.

Sorry, I still haven't gotten over how he sandbagged Fred Thompson in favor of Crazy McQueeg in the last presidential election.

63 posted on 06/26/2016 11:36:43 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We can't fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it." --Donald Trump, 6/7/16)
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To: D-fendr
What's wrong with this picture?

That Falwell has hipster pegged trousers?

64 posted on 06/26/2016 11:38:40 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We can't fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it." --Donald Trump, 6/7/16)
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To: longhorn too; itsahoot
“There is plenty of evidence of Godly things Trump has done, he just doesn’t brag about it..."

I honestly hope you are right, only time will tell!


A little research wouldn't kill you, either. Scores of articles about his good deeds have been linked here on FR since he announced a year ago. Dismount your high horse.

65 posted on 06/26/2016 11:41:35 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We can't fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it." --Donald Trump, 6/7/16)
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To: georgiegirl
Here are he, Melania and Barron in Palm Beach last December:


66 posted on 06/26/2016 11:50:01 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We can't fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it." --Donald Trump, 6/7/16)
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To: Southnsoul

I agree, he could change, rather be changed, and the evidence be yet to come.

But I think you are agreeing, evidence is yet to come.

As it is today, Trump is just not a good fit with “born-again, evangelical Christian.”


67 posted on 06/26/2016 11:56:52 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>>However who is the judge of the meaningless? Man, or God?

If we can’t distinguish meaningless nonsense from meaning, then we’re incapable of knowing and loving God.


68 posted on 06/26/2016 12:08:44 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

>>>”Of course God’s miracles are nonsense to you.”

And, of course, I didn’t say that.


69 posted on 06/26/2016 12:09:45 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Southnsoul

The Playboy in the background makes these religious leaders look like goofs. Here they are giving thumbs up and heading back to their congregations.


70 posted on 06/26/2016 12:24:44 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: Albion Wilde

>>>”That Falwell has hipster pegged trousers?”

LOL!


71 posted on 06/26/2016 12:55:12 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

You showed it; that was sufficient.


72 posted on 06/26/2016 2:40:34 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I was referring to the others as being godly men, not necessarily pastors as David Jeremiah.

James Dobson is not one of my favorite Christian spokesmen, but I don’t think he deserves the disdain that some here have shown toward him.


73 posted on 06/26/2016 2:54:52 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: D-fendr

I don’t know what you mean by “fit.” I think a sinner and the Savior make a perfect fit.

Jesus said to them, “it is not those who are healthy who need a physician, but those who are sick; I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” (Mark 2:17)


74 posted on 06/26/2016 3:06:54 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: georgiegirl

Will check it out, Georgiegirl, and get back to you when I can. Thanks for sharing it.


75 posted on 06/26/2016 3:08:24 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: Faith Presses On

I hope not.


76 posted on 06/26/2016 3:08:59 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Albion Wilde

LOL!


77 posted on 06/26/2016 3:11:43 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cornfedcowboy

Oh, give me a break. Obviously, they were in Trump’s personal space where he has framed copies of his being on the covers of various publications, including Playboy, as mementos of his success. It’s not like the magazine is the only one there or that it’s open with the centerfold being shown.

His Christian guests are not there to endorse Playboy or to tell him to get rid of a magazine cover he wanted to keep, they are there, endorsing the man to lead this country.

If Mr. Trump is or ever becomes a Christian too, the Holy Spirit will convict him and guide him on what is appropriate for a believer and what is not.


78 posted on 06/26/2016 6:13:26 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: georgiegirl

Georgiagirl, I had heard this prophetic interview before and I have mixed emotions about it.

I believe that God can and does give prophetic words today, but they are to be in harmony with the revealed Word of God. They are not to be added to the canon of Scripture that we already have in the Bible.

A little background, my theology is Baptist and my experiential walk with the Lord is a little more charismatic... though I don’t believe that everyone should speak in tongues or that everyone will be healed.

So I’m open to God giving specific words and revelation at specific times to certain individuals. However, the thing that bothers me about these “words of prophecy” is that too often they come after the fact.

I don’t want to say I doubt the guy being interviewed, but I would think it would be more persuasive and more indicative of a true prophecy from God, if he had came out and said these things before Trump’s ascendancy as a candidate.

Just the other day, I was at YouTube and saw all kind of “prophecies” from different voices, regarding Trump becoming president.

These things should be proclaimed BEFORE he plows through the primaries, not while or after he is on his way to the nomination. It makes it very hard to believe that God spoke it to them in the first place. And why would the Lord gives such a great prophecy to someone that most of the Church of Christ will never hear of?

Like with the so-called, “prophecies” over Ted Cruz, we need to be very careful with what we consider a word from God. It could very well be our word and not His word. By the way, I still think that the Lord has raised up Donald Trump for this power in our nations history and I didn’t need a prophetic word to see Him doing it.


79 posted on 06/26/2016 6:37:52 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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To: Southnsoul

*Typo correction: hour not power.


80 posted on 06/26/2016 6:41:53 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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