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In Israel, there's no 'right to bear arms' - and it works
Arutz Sheva ^ | 19/6/16 | Ron Kampeas

Posted on 06/19/2016 2:03:45 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

(JTA) Dirty, hot and exhausted Israeli soldiers waiting for their bus home from the army base tend, understandably, to be in a hurry to get on board.

But when I was living in Israel during the first intifada, soldiers didn’t jostle to be first in line. Rather, the most coveted position was second.

That’s because the bus driver had the right – under rules issued by the army and made clear to each armed soldier before she or he left the base – to order any soldier to sit in the front seat and remain alert. And the first one to get on board was the obvious choice.

If you’d just finished three weeks of training with rare interruptions for sleep and were looking forward to a snooze on the long trip home, this was definitely a downer. But it was necessitated by the rash of Palestinian terrorist attacks on bus drivers at the time.

One of the first things visitors to Israel notice is the ubiquity of young people with automatic weapons. Yet Israel suffers the tiniest fraction of the mass killings the United States does. Daniel Gordis, writing last year in a Bloomberg column, reported that Americans are 33 times more likely to kill each other with guns than Israelis. How is that possible?

The answer is couched in that front seat the Egged bus driver kept empty for a soldier.

It may not be immediately obvious, but the Israelis you see armed on the beach or at the cafe are just as subject to the army hierarchy and its regulations as they would be if they were on the front line or a base.

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The careful use of guns in Israel is about being answerable to a hierarchy....

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(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: banglist; dhimmitude; duty; guncontrol; guns; hierarchy; jta; liberalagenda; right; rkba; rop; stateofpalestine
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1 posted on 06/19/2016 2:03:46 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

Oy...


2 posted on 06/19/2016 2:22:58 AM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Eleutheria5

Channel 7 publishing JTA stuff again? Some of this is as bad as the Daily Backward.


3 posted on 06/19/2016 2:23:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Eleutheria5

Or Ha’aretz, for that matter.


4 posted on 06/19/2016 2:24:50 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Eleutheria5

If given access to full-auto, I would follow these guidelines, for the full-auto only.

For everything else, I’m following the Constitution.


5 posted on 06/19/2016 2:31:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Chuck Norris finally met his match in Donald Trump.)
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To: Eleutheria5

The author is mistaken. There’s a right to bear arms on every square inch of the planet.

Some nations choose to recognize that right, and some don’t.


6 posted on 06/19/2016 2:33:10 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Yes, and if we had Israel's demographics, we'd have a lower crime rate, too.
7 posted on 06/19/2016 2:33:17 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Eleutheria5

Check the statistics for Wyoming. And also Wyoming’s gun laws.

Do the same for Plano, Texas.


8 posted on 06/19/2016 2:45:29 AM PDT by sourcery (Without the right to self defense, there can be no rights at all.)
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To: Windflier

Israel has always looked at the situation where almost everybody residing there is called upon to defend the sliver of land that is called “Israel”.

There is almost universal training in the care, use, feeding and grooming of firearms, because the enemy may be standing immediately next to you, and nobody knows when the next strike may come. Preparedness is half the battle won right there. The enemy among them may make a first strike, but they had better make it count, because the enemy will have true difficulty in keeping up the fight after the first engagement.

No sensible person whacks a hornets’ nest. But hey, we are dealing with Muslims here. Islam is notoriously short of good sense.


9 posted on 06/19/2016 2:47:09 AM PDT by alloysteel (Of course you will live in interesting times, Nobody has a choice, now.)
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To: Eleutheria5
According to the peer-reviewed research in Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun, firearms in the US are used defensively about 2.5 million times per year. About a quarter of the time, the incidents occurred away from home.

But in order to compare apples to oranges, let's restate the numbers above as rates per 100,000 gun owners:

The rate in the US at which the private use of guns save lives is 841.8 lives saved annually per 100,000 private gun owners.

The rate in the US at which the private use of guns costs lives is 33.78 lives lost annually per 100,000 private gun owners.

So the cost benefit ratio is roughly a factor of 25: 25 lives are saved annually in the US per life lost due to the private ownership of guns.

Number One With A Bullet ~ Bill Whittle

10 posted on 06/19/2016 2:49:39 AM PDT by sourcery (Without the right to self defense, there can be no rights at all.)
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To: Windflier

“The author is mistaken. There’s a right to bear arms on every square inch of the planet.”

“Some nations choose to recognize that right, and some don’t.”

You are completely correct.


11 posted on 06/19/2016 2:49:54 AM PDT by DrPretorius
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To: Eleutheria5

I see some of the scenarios they gave there. Individuals can address such concerns by taking the next step from the CHL course, and that would be a tactical course. The CHL course only covers the very basics. The tactical course covers how to respond in specific situations.


12 posted on 06/19/2016 2:52:32 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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How is that possible?

Remove certain minority groups from the equation and I think we would see about a 70% drop in crime........

13 posted on 06/19/2016 2:55:30 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My only regret in life is being too young to get to know my grandfathers before they died)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"Yes, and if we had Israel's demographics, we'd have a lower crime rate, too."

Worth repeating...............

14 posted on 06/19/2016 2:59:06 AM PDT by varon (There's always room for one more on the hanging tree.....)
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To: Windflier

Winner!


15 posted on 06/19/2016 3:52:13 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Assault knives need to be banned.


16 posted on 06/19/2016 4:03:02 AM PDT by Does so (Vote for Hillary...Stay Home...==8-O)
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To: Windflier

Thank you.

So many people get this wrong.

The article should be along the lines that Israel can infringe on the right to bear arms.


17 posted on 06/19/2016 4:14:03 AM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Remove certain minority groups from the equation and I think we would see about a 70% drop in crime........

More like 90%

18 posted on 06/19/2016 4:28:34 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Eleutheria5

BS article. Most Isreal citizens carry, I have been there and have seen.


19 posted on 06/19/2016 4:29:48 AM PDT by exnavy (John 3:16)
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To: Eleutheria5

LOL. In Israel one has the right to NOT bear arms, at least when not on duty.


20 posted on 06/19/2016 4:29:59 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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