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FDA regulations could kill the vaping industry
WVLT - CBS Local ^ | May 25, 2016 | By Lauren Davis

Posted on 05/26/2016 1:18:21 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Knoxville vape companies are fuming mad after the FDA passed new regulations this month. They say this new law will put an end to the vaping industry.

They are shocked at how far reaching the regulations are, and now they're afraid the new restrictions will destroy the industry.

Hunter Allison with Tri State Vape Company will have to submit an application for each new product. He says that would come with a hefty price tag. Allison says, "The absolutely lowest price I've seen is $300,000 per product and that's $4.5 million for me and there's no possible way.

He's already put $150,000 into his e-liquid manufacturing company.

He says more money will put him out of business.

Store owners say they've made some major contributions to the community employing 15 people and generating $280,000 in tax revenue. They say new regulations will put them out of business, and they won't be the only ones. Bill Livezey says, "They've basically blanketed the industry with such rigorous standards that no one is going to survive this."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhofda; bigbrother; ecigs; fda; pufflist; regulatioins; regulations; smoking; vaping
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
First it was the smokers back in the 1970s when they moved them to the back of the plane.......and nobody stood up for them.

Then it became firearms and the firearms industries........How many of those supporters stood behind the smokers while the smokers stood behind the 2nd Amendment supporters.....?

Then they came after....you name it.......

Everybody has their own little niche that they will support without any thought to the bigger picture..........

I'm at the point where I really don't give a damn anymore......

So called "conservatives" haven't done me a damn bit of good over the past 20 years.........

21 posted on 05/26/2016 2:09:32 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (#HillaryForPrison-2016)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I used vaping to quit smoking. It worked well enough that I was able to quit both habits.


22 posted on 05/26/2016 2:10:21 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: MeganC

“Drugs are not mentioned in the Constitution but “life” is mentioned in the Declaration...”

The Declaration doesn’t determine what the federal government has the authority to do. If they don’t have Constitutional authorization to do something, then they aren’t “supposed” to be doing it, period.


23 posted on 05/26/2016 2:16:33 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The only companies that can afford these regulations are big tobacco companies, they are late to the vaping party but they are doing it now.

Big Tobacco and Big Government already have the tax avenues in place to tax the vapers at cigarette rates - they miss that revenue. Vaping took away billions of dollars in tax money, they want it back.....enter FDA.


24 posted on 05/26/2016 2:16:38 PM PDT by libertarian27 (FR Cookbooks - On Profile Page)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

bummer. Roadblocks to addiction.


25 posted on 05/26/2016 2:18:18 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

My guess is that Big Tobacco demanded and got a chokehold on the action through regulations they could easily afford but shut out the little guy.

I’d say there needs to be a vape equivalent of roll your own.


26 posted on 05/26/2016 2:19:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: MeganC

And just how nanny are you going to get. Do we require health certificates before someone buys a dozen calorie laden doughnuts?


27 posted on 05/26/2016 2:20:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Drango

Contrariwise, vaping has worked fairly well as a quitting route.


28 posted on 05/26/2016 2:20:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
First it was the smokers back in the 1970s when they moved them to the back of the plane.......and nobody stood up for them.

LOL. What's to stand up for? I was asking for regulation as were millions of of other conservatives.

29 posted on 05/26/2016 2:23:08 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: MeganC
First of all, legally, it isn't a drug, because vape sellers make no claim about it's health effects, whereas nicotine patch and gum manufacturers claim a definite health effect: their products assist you to quit smoking.

Therefore, the only legal claim is if the FDA can prove vaping is harmful. But they can't. We don't have a precautionary principle in law: the FDA has to make bogus claims in order to claim jurisdiction.

They also can't claim it's tobacco, because it isn't.

What you're saying is like saying mouthwash should have a tax stamp because it contains alcohol.

They're simply lying and unlawfully extending their authority in large part through the sloppy reasoning you just exhibited.

30 posted on 05/26/2016 2:24:25 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: Drango

Conservatives-of-what?

If you are a die hard constitutional libertarian you will want to “conserve” things that a die hard health nanny won’t want to, and vice versa.


31 posted on 05/26/2016 2:24:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Good thing republicans control both houses “

Unfortunately, they don’t do anything about it. Note the already onerous regs and taxes on tobacco. No regs abolished, nor taxes down, whoever runs the show!

Vape suppliers should just go black-market. Better money there anyway.


32 posted on 05/26/2016 2:24:43 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: HiTech RedNeck
vaping has worked fairly well as a quitting route.

Unless you're a teenager who experimented with vaping, got addicted then took up smoking.

33 posted on 05/26/2016 2:26:00 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: fruser1

Or there could be a roll your own vape market (blend your own? vodka and tobacco, would that work in the vape dispensers?)


34 posted on 05/26/2016 2:26:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Drango

There is always the marginal case. A car could get you wrapped around a telephone pole too.


35 posted on 05/26/2016 2:27:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I ain’t no Losertarian.


36 posted on 05/26/2016 2:27:20 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

I beg your pardon, why not listen to the Gipper?


37 posted on 05/26/2016 2:27:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Drango

You are a nananana nanny.


38 posted on 05/26/2016 2:28:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Proof they don’t want anything interfering with tobacco tax receipts.


39 posted on 05/26/2016 2:28:56 PM PDT by G Larry (ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You are an addict.


40 posted on 05/26/2016 2:29:49 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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