[Utmost Certainty]

They’re dysfunctionally self-destructive in their own ways, no doubt. But their retrograde cultures seem to be surviving, if not thriving regardless. Only the West seems to be outright suicidal.

[Jack Hammer]

So... you don’t consider being dysfunctionally self-destructive the same as suicidal?

I think we’re talking potayto/potahto here.