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47 posted on 05/22/2016 2:54:16 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)

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I achieve ZEN several times a day when with chin in palm and elbow on desk I slide into nothingness...not quite sleep. I always return slowly and wondering “How do I do that?”

48 posted on 05/22/2016 3:05:03 PM PDT by 3D-JOY (Visit the FREEPATHON today!)

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