Ohio: The fate of some of John Kasich's delegates may still be debated -- he won his home state of Ohio and all 66 of its delegates. The state rules on the party web site make no reference to how long Ohio GOP delegates are bound. Some sources indicate delegates may be bound to a candidate even if they suspend their campaign.
Marco Rubio won at least one delegate in 19 states, plus Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia, and the fate of at least some of his delegates has been determined. His 7 delegates in Iowa, 14 delegates in Georgia, 8 in Massachusetts, 12 in Oklahoma, 1 in Hawaii, 6 in North Carolina, 16 in Virginia and 9 in Arkansas will remain bound to him at the convention, though the number of ballots they're bound for varies by state.
They go to Delegate Purgatory and we’ll never hear from them again.
Cruz delegates should go to Trump, else stay home. They lost and have no need, nor should they be welcomed at the convention. Enough of Lyn’ Ted and his delegate games.
Do they not by the time of the convention go to the frontrunner?
LIbbylu is that you?
They will be given to Hellary.
They should be required to provide free Cheetos for the other delegates and apologize for being suckers on the Glenn Beck show. /s
Cruz for sure and I think Rubio,,don’t know about Kasich have suspended, not ended their campaigns.
So some of these rules do not apply because they are technically still running.
Aren’t they bound to vote for their candidate on the first ballot? As long as their candidates don’t officially withdraw from the race they’re committed to vote for him, right?
Trump will go to the convention with more than half the delegates bound to him.
Knowing this the vast majority of delegates who aren’t bound will vote for Trump. It’s possible that some of the candidates will release their candidates before the initial ballot. The bound candidates will vote for their respective candidate. Trump will win on the first ballot.
Then symbolically they will probably ask for a unanimous affirmation. And Trump will get the votes of all, unless there are still some Cruz delegates still suffering from serious butthurt.
The OH situation is confusing. Just after the primary, what we were reading is that if Kasich dropped out of the campaign, those delegates would go to the second place finisher. That is Trump, a very strong #2. Who knows? For all we know, they might be writing the rules as they go along.
Who gives a $@*&^#$@&$^&.
Cruz can go back to being a senator and possibly wind up on SCOTUS if he behaves himself.
Kasich can finish up his term as Governor and go on to be a permanent resident in a padded cell somewhere.
Rubio has a future in politics once he gets his nose out McCain’s butt. Maybe in the Trump Administration or even VP and future President.
Gucifer will hack them.
No effect on Trumps nomination. None, Nada, zippo.
They all should go to Trump for sure, but we’ll see.
It depends on how suicidal the GOPe/RNC is.
(2) For any manner of binding or allocating delegates under these rules, if a delegate (i) casts a vote for a presidential candidate at the national convention inconsistent with the delegates obligation under state law or state party rule, (ii) nominates or demonstrates support under Rule No. 40 for a presidential candidate other than the one to whom the delegate is bound or allocated under state law or state party rule, or (iii) fails in some other way to carry out the delegates affirmative duty under state law or state party rule to cast a vote at the national convention for a particular presidential candidate, the delegate shall be deemed to have concurrently resigned as a delegate and the delegates improper vote or nomination shall be null and void. Thereafter the secretary of the convention shall record the delegates vote or nomination in accordance with the delegates obligation under state law or state party rule. This subsection does not apply to delegates who are bound to a candidate who has withdrawn his or her candidacy, suspended or terminated his or her campaign, or publicly released his or her delegates.
This subsection is about enforcing state binding rules. It says at the top that a delegate who does not vote as the state directed them to will be discharged, and their vote will be recorded as the state initially directed.
Then it says that the subsection does not apply to delegates whose candidate suspended their campaign, meaning they will NOT be penalized for unbound voting.
Since Cruz, Kasich, Rubio, et. al., suspended, this rule says that the penalty no longer applies. If the penalty no longer applies, then delegates bound to them are free to vote for any candidate in nomination without penalty.
The dropouts, by rule, no longer control their bound delegates. Their delegates cannot be punished for voting for Trump.
-PJ
It’s moot now. Trump will have a majority on the first ballot.
It looks like Trump will gather ~ 1500 delegates after the remaining primary states vote. Way more than needed to secure the Republican Party nomination on the first vote.
The question of where the other than Trump delegates go is moot. Their first round votes will not make a difference to the convention outcome as far as the nominee is concerned.
To speculate on their utility beyond being on the losing side of the nomination is an exercise in futility. Better to contemplate your naval.
The physical bodies will go to the convention. Depending on what happens between now and the convention, the actual delegates will draft the party platform either to their liking independent of Trump, or to accommodate the Presidential nominee. Since none of them are bound on a VP vote, there is the possibility of the convention choosing the VP nominee instead of following the recommendation of the Presidential nominee.
While these are possibilities, I doubt it. The strong victories of Trump following Wisconsin, making Indiana do or die for Cruz, and then his big victory in Indiana, have given Trump abut ten weeks to focus on party unity and winning the general election.
At this point: Trump needs the infrastructure and ground troops of the Republican Party. Also, the money. Trump cannot and will not even try to self-fund the general election campaign. The Republican Party needs the persona and following of Trump. Not only to win the Presidency, but to retain and perhaps even expand on our majorities in Congress and our positions in many state governments.
At some point, people are going to realize Trump is not a professional politician. So, he doesn’t always calibrate what he says. He’s spontaneous. He thinks out loud. He plays with his audience. Trump is open to correction (which is not the same as ‘admitting mistakes’). He is also deliberately outrageous, since he is by nature a deal-maker and expects to compromise.
Together, the old-fashioned conservatives and the new-style Trump conservatives have an opportunity to chart the course of the Republican Party. So, I think Trump will nominate somebody the conservatives will like, for VP. And, I think Trump will basically embrace the Republican platform with modifications reflecting his priorities, and the members of the platform committee will make these modifications.
The moderates like Kasich will either accommodate themselves to this reality or back Hillary. Actually, Trump is himself a social moderate, so don’t be too surprised if only a few moderates jump ship.
As to those who, in the end, jump ship, maybe there are some prissy conservatives who object to Trump’s bigger than life persona and his antics. But, if Trump is going to nominate judges who will uphold our Constitution, what’s a few vulgar reflexes? I think, when all is said and done, the few who will jump ship will be the neo-cons who think the purpose of the US is to be the world’s policeman and get into as many wars as possible. They will be the ones who will go with Hillary Clinton and a continuation of the neo-con agenda.
quick solution: State party will refuse ticket placement to any candidate for any subsequent race if that candidate refuses to file a sworn statement of withdrawal upon 'suspension' of their current campaign.