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The “Never Trump” Pouters
Frontpagemagazine ^ | May 9, 2016 | David Horowitz

Posted on 05/09/2016 4:31:05 AM PDT by SJackson

The “Never Trump” Pouters       

It’s understandable when Democrats slander Trump, but it’s disgraceful when Republicans echo them.

Reprinted from Breitbart.com.

The conservatives who have declared war on the primary victor are displaying a myopia that could be deadly in November when Trump will lead Republicans against a party that has divided the country, destroyed its borders, empowered its enemies and put 93 million Americans into dependency on the state. This reckless disregard for consequences is matched only by a blindness to what has made Trump the presumptive nominee. When he entered the Republican primaries a year ago Trump was given no chance of surviving even the first contest let alone becoming the Republican nominee. That was the view of all the experts, and especially those experts with the best records of prediction.

Trump - who had never held political office and had no experience in any political job - faced a field of sixteen tested political leaders, including nine governors and five senators from major states. Most of his political opponents were conservatives. During the primaries several hundred million dollars were spent in negative campaign ads – nastier and more personal than in any Republican primary in memory. At least 60,000 of those ads were aimed at Trump, attacking him as a fraud, a corporate predator, a not-so-closet liberal, an ally of Hillary Clinton, indistinguishable from Barack Obama, an ignoramus, and too crass to be president (Bill Clinton anyone?).

These negative ads were directed at Republican primary voters, a constituency well to the right of the party. These primary voters are a constituency that may be said to represent the heart of the conservative movement in America, and are generally more politically engaged and informed than most Republican voters. Trump won their support. He won by millions of votes - more votes from this conservative heartland than any Republican in primary history. To describe Trump as ignorant – as so many beltway intellectuals have – is merely to privilege book knowledge over real world knowledge, not an especially wise way to judge political leaders.

A chorus of detractors has attempted to dismiss Trump’s political victory as representing a mere plurality of primary voters, but how many candidates have won outright majorities among a field of seventeen, or five or even three? When the Republican primary contest was actually reduced to three, Trump beat the “true conservative,” Ted Cruz, with more than fifty percent of the votes. He did this in blue states and red states, and in virtually all precincts and among all Republican demographics. He clinched the nomination by beating Cruz with an outright majority in conservative Indiana.

In opposing the clear choice of the Republican primary electorate the “Never Trump” crowd is simply displaying their contempt for the most politically active Republican voters. This contempt was dramatically displayed during a CNN segment with Trump’s spokeswoman, Katrina Pierson, and Bill Kristol, the self-appointed guru of a Third Party movement whose only result can be to split the Republican ticket and provide Hillary with her best shot at the presidency. Pierson urged Kristol to help unify the Party behind its presumptive nominee. Kristol grinned and answered her: “You want leaders to become followers.” Could there be a more arrogant response? By what authority does Bill Kristol regard himself as a leader? Trump has the confidence of millions of highly committed and generally conservative Republican voters. That makes him a leader. Who does Bill Kristol lead except a coterie of inside-the-beltway foreign policy interventionists, who supported the fiasco in Libya that opened the door to al-Qaeda and ISIS?

I say this as someone who has written three books supporting the intervention in Iraq and who thinks Trump is dead wrong on this issue. However I also understand that the Bush administration did not defend the war the Democrats sabotaged, allowing its critics to turn it into a bad war in the eyes of the American people. Consequently, Trump’s attack on the intervention is a smart political move that will allow him to win over many Democrat, Independent and even conservative voters who think Iraq was a mistake and do not appreciate the necessity of that war or the tragedy of the Democrats’ opposition to it. You can’t reverse historical judgments in election year sound bites. Understanding this, instinctively or otherwise, makes Trump politically smarter than his Washington detractors.

Conservatives like Kristol claim to oppose Trump on principles but then turn to Mitt Romney for a Third Party run. This is the same Mitt Romney who as governor of Massachusetts was the father of Obamacare but ran against Obamacare in 2012. So much for principles.

“True conservatives” claim the Constitution as their bible. But, as everybody knows, the first principle of that document is tnat the people are sovereign. The people’s voice, expressed at the ballot box, determines who leads. The “Never Trump” conservatives don’t respect this principle. What other conclusion can be drawn from their arrogant repudiation of a candidate whose authority derives from the expressed will of the people?

The Never Trump elites claim the voters are fools because Trump is “utterly unfit to be president by temperament, values and policy preferences.” This is the phrase used by Eliot A. Cohen a former Defense and State Department official in the Bush 41 and Bush 43 administrations. It is a sentiment  common to most anti-Trump commentators.

But what can it possibly mean? During the first Republican debate, in front of a television audience of 17 million people, Jeb Bush took a pledge saying he would support whoever eventually won the Republican primaries. But as soon as the winner was declared, Bush reneged on his promise. Is telling the truth a presidential value? Or do the anti-Trumpers make allowances for politicians they support, cutting them slack that permits them to lie or change their minds when it is convenient to do so?

The anti-Trump crowd seems most concerned about the personal insults that Trump used successfully to defeat his formidable and more experienced rivals. Perhaps they are forgetting the hundred million dollars worth of personal insults and attacks that were directed at Rubio and Trump by Bush’s PAC, which the candidate himself never repudiated. Is it their view what is presidential is to have surrogates do your dirty work, while pretending to be innocent of the deed?

Trump has attempted to repair most of the insults he delivered by praising Cruz and Rubio and explaining that he was harsh on Bush because it was a competition and harsh things were being said about him in 60,000 negative ads. Moreover he would consider some of the rivals he had previously bruised to be his running mate. Trump has shown a magnanimity in victory that his antagonists are unable to show in defeat. I would call that presidential.

What about those policy preferences that allegedly disqualify Trump? In his original statement on immigration Trump should have said this. “I love Mexicans. I employ thousands of Mexicans. I want them to come here but I want them to come here legally. If America has no borders we have no country. Here’s the problem: Millions of Mexicans are not coming here legally. Among the illegals being smuggled across our borders are 550,000 criminals who have committed rape, murder, robbery and felonies. This has to stop, and I’m going to stop it. I’m going to build a wall, and I’m going to make Mexico pay for it.

Unfortunately when Trump said words to this effect, he said them backwards. He began by saying Mexico is not sending its best people here, but sending rapists, murderers, drug dealers. It was only after that he said they are also sending good people. I love Mexicans. I employ thousands of Mexicans. I want them to come here, but legally.

Now it’s understandable that Democrats bent on sabotaging our borders should twist his words and make him sound like an anti-Mexican nativist. That’s what Democrats do. But it’s disgraceful when Republicans echo them. Similarly, Donald Trump is not against free trade, but wants the so-called free trade to be fair. Neither is Trump in favor of banning Muslim immigration. He wants a moratorium on Muslim immigration until a screening system is put in place so that we don’t simply open our doors to Muslims from a Taliban and al-Qaeda supporting nation like Pakistan who belong to a terrorist mosques and lie about their home addresses like the San Bernardino shooter. Every conservative should support that, and no conservative should join Democrats in lying about Trump’s position and calling it a permanent ban on Muslims.

Will Trump live up to the conservative promises he has made? Will he build the wall, and defend this country, and give his best effort to putting America’s interests first and making America great again? If you believe that Donald Trump takes the Trump name seriously, and wants to create a monument to his family and himself, it’s a good bet he will try to do just that. And Hillary won’t. She’ll do the opposite. And that is as much certainty about political outcomes as anyone in this life can expect.  



TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gope; handwringers; horowitz; kristol; marklevin; nevertrump
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To: SJackson

David Horowitz rarely gets an article on FR these days. Don’t know what he’s been doing. He makes the salient point here but I object to his use of ‘coservative’ here. I’m conservative and I consider Trump more conservative than any of his detractors who I believe have proven to be not conservative by detracting from Trump and proving that they have an ulterior agenda. Rush included. Especially Rush

None of these so called conservatives have credibly claimed a conservative agenda when disparaging Trump. They prefer Cruz or. Like Dana Perino, jeb. These guys are pro amnesty (invasion) and TPP These are not conservative positions

Getting rid of the deficit Stopping amnesty or the invasion through enforcing our laws are conservative positions if conservatism, as defined by Mark Levin, now a Cruz supporter ( never trump pouter), is a way of life by proven principals


21 posted on 05/09/2016 6:11:03 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Roccus

“What Republican politicians and pundits fail to realize is that just as THEY were the reason for the “tea party,” so too are THEY the reason for Trump.”

Exactly.

David Horowitz would Come out for Trump I just wish he’d used the term “republican politician” rather than “conservative”. I don’t like being in the same boat with that bill kristol pouter extraordinaire


22 posted on 05/09/2016 6:18:27 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Nifster

Too right! In the very recent past folks here were wrongfully slamming Horowitz as a NeverTrumper.

Glad to see he’s slamming the pouting Neo-Con poseurs, like this slimey little Kristol Clown. He doesn’t have the stones to lead a troop of grannies across the street!


23 posted on 05/09/2016 6:19:00 AM PDT by EarlT357
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To: detective

Exactly. Well said.


24 posted on 05/09/2016 6:39:16 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: SJackson

Accepting reality, I will walk barefoot over rough gravel
on election day in November to get to the polls & vote
TRUMP.

I voted Cruz in our primary; though I had many misgivings.
- It is what it is; & it is TRUMP. After this Obama ringer
we’ve had for almost 8 yrs. now & now a retreaded Hitler-y,
TRUMP looks acceptable enough to me.


25 posted on 05/09/2016 6:42:18 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: SJackson

Good to see David writing positive about Trump.

He gets it.

This article needs to be directed at the Never Trumper’s here on FR. Some have gone off the rails.


26 posted on 05/09/2016 6:43:28 AM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: from occupied ga

I knew Jeb Bush was toast when he came out with JEB!. It was just like HILLARY! eight years ago. He has no originality.


27 posted on 05/09/2016 6:44:37 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: SJackson

When this primary season started it was the outsiders versus the establishment in both parties. For Bernie it makes sense to continue the fight because he’s still running even on the popular vote and winning states. Once he’s gone at the convention because of the establishment delegates half of the democrat voters will be anti Hillary. In the republican primary, the outsider won. If the GOPe weren’t such a$$e$, they would see this as the perfect opportunity to destroy the Clinton crime family, progressivism, and political correctness. Paul Ryan needs to be tossed on the ash heap of special interest establishment types who forgot who they represent.


28 posted on 05/09/2016 7:12:00 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: SJackson

A very good thread with good points being made by many. I just shake my head after holding my nose and voting for Romney and Ryan 4 year ago. I expect some respect for the people that did that. But Romney and Ryan are the most ungrateful people ever. Both should just go away and shut up. Really they are yesterday’s losers. They failed to try and win when they had the nomination. In my book that means they no longer have a right to tell me anything. They have proven how worthless they are and must be purged from the party for the good of the party.


29 posted on 05/09/2016 7:13:06 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (TRUMP. YES! Bye Bye hiLIARy.)
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To: OrioleFan

It runs in the family; isn’t she his sister-in-law?


30 posted on 05/09/2016 7:16:29 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: major-pelham; All
Four years from now, a new lefty SCOTUS with 30 years of headroom, $6 trillion more in debt, 30 million amnestied, tax rates over 50%, no 2a anymore, a new 1a with religion taken out, planned parenthood with a cabinet post? What can’t they see?

The Republicans who’re now opposing Mr. Trump and saying they won’t vote for him, will vote for the Witch, and/or are contemplating a third party run against him are not just indulging themselves in evil, infantile, self-destructive tantrums. Instead, and far worse, their actions are un-American and anti-constitutional. They propose to enable an habitual criminal to become President and to assure that anti-American communist criminal will be able to remake the Constitution in her own vile form by appointing as many as five Supreme Court justices, who will hold their positions for the next generation. Nothing could be worse.

31 posted on 05/09/2016 7:19:42 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: SJackson

NeverTrump = AlwaysHillary


32 posted on 05/09/2016 9:04:29 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SJackson
Oh lawd! You should have warned the ladies his mug would be on here! Keanu Reeves photo celeb6_zpsyvh0pvoe.jpg That's better.
33 posted on 05/09/2016 9:16:20 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: DuncanWaring

Pretty much.


34 posted on 05/09/2016 9:35:01 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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35 posted on 05/09/2016 9:59:45 AM PDT by ELS
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To: detective

Hey, I like what you wrote, but edited it to make it more cogent:

The self-annointed “principled conservatives” who oppose Trump are not conservatives at all: they simply represent establishment groups that view the average conservative American as nothing but a sap to be lied to and manipulated.

These establishment pseudo-conservatives fall into five groups. Let’s call them the five B’s:

1. THE BRIBED - These are the people paid by rich special interest groups whose financial interests directly contradict the interests of the average American. THE BRIBED depend upon rich, “cheap labor express” globalists to fund their jobs and their campaigns. These sell-outs go before the voters and pretend to care about them while hiding their true intentions. Americans have finally wised-up and detest these traitorous political figures who they now no longer trust. These highly paid “consultants” and their pseudo-conservative establishment client politicians make emotional appeals to support “true conservatives”, though this sort of propaganda is becoming less useful as more and more rank-and-file members catch on via the many truth-exposing sources available on the Internet.

2. THE BEHOLDEN - There is some overlap with THE BRIBED but THE BEHOLDEN are primarily New York and Washington based enemedia pundits who don’t have a real audience and whose very existence and career depend on a small network of supporters. They don’t care about the American people, and the American people don’t care about them. But their small network of supporters provides them with media access and employment, often with large publications and institutions. Think “Bill Kristol”, “George Will”, “Erick Erickson”, etc.

3. THE BLACKMAILED - Many newly elected Washington GOP politicians have talked a good game during election time, but once elected, for some reason they have quickly drop their “conservative principles” when they vote. Such conversions happen too quickly to be the result of slowy compromising away their souls a tiny piece at a time until nothing is left and therefore can really only be the result of some kind of blackmail. Think Senator Cory Gardner from Colorado.

4 THE BUSHES - Many of the instigators of the NeverTrump movement appear to be associated with Bush family interests. When Jeb Bush was still running, the idea was to attack Trump but not his supporters. Once Jeb bush left the race it was time to totally destroy Trump. Candidates and pundits were told to go after Trump and personally ridicule him and to gang up against him. Lindsey Graham and Mitt Romney attacked Trump continually in public speeches. The Bushes represent open borders, globalism and alliances with liberals. The big dollar PAC’s attacking Trump with negative ads are primarily supported by Bush and Romney big-money interests.

5. THE BLIND - This category includes those naive folks who think the open-borders, pro-Muslim globalists actually represent their interests, that is, assuming they think about the issues at all and are not simply content to think of themselves as “good Republicans”. Without performing independent research, THE BLIND naively accept politicians who proclaim themselves “principled conservatives” and that Trump is a liberal reality show host or that Trump will ruin America or that Trump is a racist or a a hater, all of which are themes continually repeated by the enemedia 24x7x365. Think country club Republicans who attend fund-raisers dressed in their finery and who are simply content in thinking they are rubbing elbows when they meet beggar politicians.

I think all of these groups would prefer a Clinton victory to a Trump victory.


36 posted on 05/09/2016 10:02:29 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SMARTY

I haven’t read this post or it’s replies yet.

What irks me about these cretins is most of them are independently wealthy and have little to lose no matter who wins in November.

They will hardly suffer under a Killary administration like the rest of us shlubs.


37 posted on 05/09/2016 10:25:57 AM PDT by Jay Thomas
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To: SJackson

Did you have to include that picture of a festering, rancid, steaming pile of HOG SH#T in the article?


38 posted on 05/09/2016 10:49:22 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: SJackson

Æsop. (Sixth century B.C.) Fables.
The Harvard Classics. 1909–14.

The Bat, the Birds, and the Beasts

A GREAT conflict was about to come off between the Birds and the Beasts. When the two armies were collected together the Bat hesitated which to join. The Birds that passed his perch said: “Come with us”; but he said: “I am a Beast.” Later on, some Beasts who were passing underneath him looked up and said: “Come with us”; but he said: “I am a Bird.” Luckily at the last moment peace was made, and no battle took place, so the Bat came to the Birds and wished to join in the rejoicings, but they all turned against him and he had to fly away. He then went to the Beasts, but soon had to beat a retreat, or else they would have torn him to pieces. “Ah,” said the Bat, “I see now,

“HE THAT IS NEITHER ONE THING NOR THE OTHER HAS NO FRIENDS.”
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39 posted on 05/09/2016 12:06:57 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Why isn't Hillary in jail?)
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To: SJackson

Especially since Trump never slammed Cruz or his wife or his father and was always such a gentleman. We should all be as polite as Trump.


40 posted on 05/09/2016 4:24:03 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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