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Here’s the Thing So Many Americans Can’t Grasp About Bernie Sanders
Observer ^ | 04/25/16 | Pete Ross

Posted on 05/04/2016 9:09:48 AM PDT by mrbinga

Watching this year’s presidential nomination process from Australia has been a very interesting affair. I can’t say I’ve followed every single speech or piece of news, but I’ve certainly kept abreast of what is going on and have seen plenty of articles and commentary from people on my feed putting their opinions forward. What interests me the most are the people and media pundits who emphatically denounce Bernie Sanders and his supporters. The reasons all generally boil down to the fact that he is the reincarnation of Karl Marx and he wants to turn the U.S. into a communist state. That he is so far left of centre that he’s basically off the chart.

For those people, here’s a reality check.

(Excerpt) Read more at observer.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2106demprimary; angrydems; feelthebern; hillary2106
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To: petro45acp

Terrific reply ... thanx


21 posted on 05/04/2016 9:40:33 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof .... but they're true)
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To: mrbinga

Just another Aussie tosser...


22 posted on 05/04/2016 9:46:05 AM PDT by Gritty (Assent to obvious lies is co-operating with evil. A society of liars is easy to control.-T.Dalrymple)
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To: knarf
Having spent too much time on the Ted Cruz genealogy and now this Sanders stuff...I want to thank you knarf for this
....
the Möbius strip....this will keep me happy...'till they come to get me ta da.....
23 posted on 05/04/2016 9:48:11 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe

heh heh heh ... welcome to MY hell ... How’d you like THAT for NASCAR ... NO turns !


24 posted on 05/04/2016 9:50:43 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof .... but they're true)
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To: yoe
THIS ONE, however ...

Is my all time favorite

25 posted on 05/04/2016 9:51:54 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof .... but they're true)
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To: mrbinga

A decade ago, a kook like Sanders would never have been a serious contender for the Democratic nomination.

That he’s as popular as he is shows how much the country has changed.

As the Democrats slide towards the Marxist Left, the GOP is moving left to occupy ground formerly held by moderate Democrats.

Which are increasingly an extinct species.


26 posted on 05/04/2016 9:54:45 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Kickass Conservative
"I wonder, does he know that the entire Birther Movement started with Hillary’s Campaign in 2008? They also started the Obama is a Muslim meme.

Obama never was and is not a natural born Citizen.

The settled law of the land is that the US President must be a natural born citizen, and that to be a natural born citizen, you must have been born in the United States to parents both of whom were US citizens when you were born.

You may disagree with the goal of the Constitutional Convention, and/or with the means they chose to achieve it. But it's not a technicality, not an anachronism no longer relevant in modern times, nor is it racist. Especially in modern times, it enables persons of any race or ethnic heritage to become President. And it's what the Constitution requires.

You may also disagree with binding precedent regarding the meaning of "natural born citizen" as established in Minor. But in our system, the Constitution, and the Supreme Court's interpretation of it, are the "supreme law of the land." And if one faction gets to disregard the Constitution and/or the Supreme Court because they disagree, then that sets a precedent where all other factions can do the same.

Any Argument Against the Natural Law Definition of "Natural Born Citizen" Can easily be Defeated Here

27 posted on 05/04/2016 9:54:57 AM PDT by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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To: knarf

Maybe those countries on the “happy index” are populated with people who don’t really want to be free.


28 posted on 05/04/2016 9:57:11 AM PDT by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I think it is absolutely impossible to reform our present health-care system. It is so large, so complex, so dependent on government money, and with so many powerful interests having bought in - it can not be reformed.

I would start a new health-care system alongside it. A completely free-market one. Let them even physically have their own land in each town (like free-enterprise zones), where doctors and patients are free to establish any agreement they wish, and where prices are clear and payments are a matter between provider and patient only.


29 posted on 05/04/2016 10:00:23 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: knarf

Pleasure.

poit!

KYPD


30 posted on 05/04/2016 10:45:27 AM PDT by petro45acp (" It IS About Islam: exposing the truth about ISIS, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the caliphate" by Glenn Beck)
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To: mrbinga
And here I thought Aussies were by and large a bunch of rugged pull yourself up by your bootstrap individualists.

Oh no. They have been Socialists since way before being Socialist was cool.


31 posted on 05/04/2016 10:56:09 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: mrbinga

Unfortunately, to keep those freebies, you have to squash individual rights and make it against the law to buy or sell things. The government becomes your employer, grocery store, your transportation, your provider. When they say you can’t have this that or chicken fat, your stuck because It’s against the law to make good for yourself. Think that the NSA is bad now...just wait.


32 posted on 05/04/2016 11:01:23 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
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To: knarf
Thank you........
... you're too kind.
33 posted on 05/04/2016 11:09:26 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Sans-Culotte

You are EXACTLY right.


34 posted on 05/04/2016 11:12:23 AM PDT by Inkie
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To: mrbinga

All Aussies aren’t the same.

What if a ‘black lives matter’ person wrote an article and some Aussies mused that he didn’t think Americans were so radical...


35 posted on 05/04/2016 11:13:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (Imagine the shrieking MSM outrage if Trump supporters had tried to flip a car... David French)
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To: mrbinga
Elsie's Gang Sez:

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(the) Observer [Pete Ross - 04/25/16]

36 posted on 05/04/2016 11:34:05 AM PDT by Col Freeper (Liberals: Devoted members of the "Church of the Eternally Offended".)
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To: mrbinga
That’s why it also baffles me when people say that they don’t want the kind of revolution Mr. Sanders is pushing—the reality is that even if he is swept to victory, the amount of change he’ll actually be able to implement won’t be half of what he wants to do.

Sander's desired outcome is socialism.Socialists know that there is a cause-effect relationship between their actions and the achievement of their final goal. Small steps that are successful and that gradually lead to a final desired outcome are a way to provide socialists with the opportunity to make the operation of cause-effect realtionsips real and tangible, which helps to motivate them to keep trying.

So you’re against universal health care or college education because you don’t think it can be paid for, but you’re happy for your government to spend that amount of money on your military when the last time you actually had to defend yourselves was over two centuries ago?

Two principles of the founding fathers are:

1) peace through strength
2) one of the legitimate functions of government is protection and preservation of the natural rights of citizens from internal and external threats.

These combination of these two principles requires a strong military. And the fact that we have not needed to defend ourselves means that the founding fathers were right.

37 posted on 05/04/2016 11:45:09 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: petro45acp
Law enforcement-not the government’s job

I think I know what you are getting at, but since the government makes the laws, it seems appropriate for the government to do something about enforcing them.

38 posted on 05/04/2016 11:48:27 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: mrbinga

What a bunch of BS. Look at what they use as statistics

http://www.sciencealert.com/the-world-happiness-index-2016-just-ranked-the-happiest-countries-on-earth


39 posted on 05/04/2016 12:00:30 PM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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To: knarf

Ah yes, a gathering of Master Debaters. Nice.


40 posted on 05/04/2016 12:12:31 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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