Along with kitty; you make our FR Catholics cry.
Posted on 05/03/2016 12:17:05 PM PDT by sevinufnine
This new doctrine is sterile, murderous, and doomed.
It is the old blab it and grab it prayer superstition, attached to worldly power and wealth.
You are offered the full armor of God, and crawl around in the mud for rubber filing stamps and handcuffs.
Let me know when you’re able to put together a rational and coherent argument. Your confusion is apparent when you actually think I’m talking about “Dominionism.”
The founding of America memorialized by the carved monuments and buildings that fill Washington D.C. and “let your light shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify your Father which is in Heaven” is no new doctrine, but yours is. Your isolationist doctrine is why the godless control our institutions and why there is such a strong “anti-establishment” movement going on right now. It is your isolationism that is “sterile, murderous, and doomed.”
Let me know when you are willing to hold a position.
The discussion is about Dominionism, or any analogous position.
My ‘isolationist doctrine’ is identical to Geo. Washington’s, and I will hold in the face of any globalist scheme.
This discussion has nothing to do with Dominionism and your thinking so evidences your confusion.
Again, confusing
1) freedom of religious exercise in government and elsewhere with
2) promoting a state-run church,
is exactly the kind of confusion the Left wants you to have to keep you under their tyranny.
George Washington and our Founders had no such confusion.
I agree with you. I was involved with Loren Cunningham’s YWAM in the 90’s and there was good and bad as it was an umbrella parachurch organization. I rally like Francis Shaeffer and I hardly think Shaeffer would have endorsed modern Christian dominionism. Totally fine to seek to be salt and light in every area that a person interacts in in the world.
This stuff is elated to Rousas John Rushdoony who founded the Christian reconstruction movement in the 1970’s which wishes to assert of theonomic form of government where only Christian’s in good standing are given full rights and Old Covenant laws are put in place. A New Covenant Halacha enforced at the point of a gun. Absolute tyranny and heterodox.
There is some of this stuff in the Messianic Jewish movement in which I have been a part of off and on over the years. Lots of good and ding dong bad which leads to heresy and unbelief. I just mention this because Cruz’s father’s church/assembly has been linked to and spoken of as a Hebrew roots/Messianic congregation. Obviously these small independent congregations can run the gamut as far as orthodox belief from cult to all points in between kinda thing.
I do think that many of the political Christian organizations in Washington and elsewhere that overtly exist to influence government have been infected with a strange dominionist theology that is a deception. The deception is that it allows compromise so that Christian’s will embrace a false substitute kingdom that is in essence the antithesis of God’s kingdom. People will embrace the Anti-Christian NWO prophesied in God’s word for a seat at the table thinking they are doing God’s will when it is everything but. It is very dangerous, subtle and appealing, especially for Christians who deny the permanency of the Abrahamic covenant or promises and thus reject God’s unfolding plans and dealings with Israel and the Church. In Dominionism people will find themselves fighting against God’s endtime plans just as the Jewish Temple authorities said acknowledged to let the followers of Yeshua/Jesus and the apostles be because they might be fighting against God.
Very much like post-millenialism which was popular in the 19th century which sought to set up a perfect Christian kingdom in all spheres of life which would then signal or usher in the second coming of Jesus and the thousand year reign. Pretty much went by the weigh side with WWI and the dissolution of modernity and 20th Century. This was a healthy thing because the false positive viewpoint is not in the Bible and just wishful thinking and manipulation.
I’m talking about statements that have come straight out of the mouths of the people I mentioned, and it is on video. I’m not talking about rumors and hearsay.
Dang!!
She could be first female pope!!
Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
Easy!
1. They are not Christian.
2. They've been hurt by a 'christian'.
3. They are Christians who confuse Meekness with Weakness.
...and GOATS!
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ELSIE;
I'm comin' to GETCHA!!
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Along with kitty; you make our FR Catholics cry.
While wearing...
... the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you will be able to stand your ground, and having done everything, to stand.
Stand firm then,
with the belt of truth fastened around your waist,
with the breastplate of righteousness arrayed,
and with your feet fitted with the readiness of the gospel of peace.
Ephesians 6:13-15
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
John 14:6 New International Version
Be careful just where you place your 'faith'.
“This discussion has nothing to do with Dominionism and your thinking so evidences your confusion.”
Of course not. It is merely the entire thread topic.
You are clearly more knowledgeable about the phenomenon than I am, but you outline exactly what I find the most disturbing about it, as a false doctrine which lends itself to globalism and globalists. The slipperiness of it is in that is starts with a truth, that we are called to extend Christian influence where we are. Then there is the leap to “commandeering” all aspects of life as one proponent here states it.
That’s fine for one’s personal walk and belief. We were talking about good men of faith being in GOVERNMENT.
We do not live in a country where there is a religious test to be part of the government. And frankly I never want to live in a country like that
Well, you seem to fail to understand or acknowledge the critical distinction here - the difference between the need for Christians to rise to the top of American professions and institutions versus some loony state-run Church concept and for people to not confuse the two which the Leftist-driven unconstitutional phrase “separation of church and state” has generated.
Again, faith-filled Christian withdrawal form leadership in our societal institutions which created a vacuum in which the godless readily and happily filled is what has got us into the mess.
Not responsive to the topic. Your comments are non sequiturs to the discussion of Dominionist deviance.
We’re done.
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