Posted on 04/23/2016 2:43:50 AM PDT by reaganaut1
As Donald Trump hurtles toward the Republican convention, he is on a collision course with the anti-abortion movement — a crucial conservative constituency that contends Republicans must own that issue to win a general election.
Leaders of the movement are suspicious, if not outright opposed, to the three-time married billionaire who only recently came to oppose abortion and whose gaffes suggest he does not understand the issue.
The latest flap exploded Thursday after Trump vowed he would "absolutely" change the Republican platform opposing abortion "for the three exceptions" — rape, incest and to protect the life of the mother. The platform is silent on exceptions, but anti-abortion groups such as March for Life shot back that Trump's revisions would undermine the party's "solidly pro-life" position.
“The suggestion that the platform should weaken its position on the pro-life issue would set back years of hard work in the pro-life movement,” said Tom McClusky, vice president of March for Life Action. Add to that the GOP front-runner’s statements last month that women should be punished for getting illegal abortions and that he doesn’t want to change existing law — positions his campaign later recanted — which are anathema to a movement that portrays itself as supportive of pregnant women and seeks to overturn the Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion.
The speed with which he corrected the two gaffes — which he rarely does — proves that he knows to take the movement seriously.
At the same time, Trump has not toned down his praise of Planned Parenthood, which he says “has done very good work for many, many — for millions of women” despite the fact that the group is reviled by anti-abortion advocates as “a seller of baby body parts.”
(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...
“Will he still be a republican after he is elected?”
NO
“The focus of the pro-life movement should be the governors. Since the Supreme Court decisions on abortion command the governors to act criminally, that is, not enforce their state abortion laws,it is up to the governors to nullify the Supreme Court decisions. And that should be the demand of the pro-life movement.”
I like this idea.
For several reasons - it brings to the forefront states’ rights, and has the potential to be quite effective. The current strategy sure isn’t working (yes, to some extent, but not enough).
Trump has a record on abortion as bad as Hillary. He supported partial birth abortion. Any Christian voting for him will be partaking in his sin.
I could ALMOST understand Christian Conservatives voting for Trump if there was no other choice, but Ted Cruz is one of the most Conservative men in America.
Anyone voting for Trump is either a Liberal or being willfully blind in order to try to justify their idolatry toward that wicked, Left Wing Liberal.
So Trump supports using public funds for murder for fun and profit.
Nope. I cannot support that.
You just don't get it, do you. I have maybe 20 years left on this earth at best. What happens after that will last a lot longer.
How can I stand before my creator having voted for anyone who supports the slaughter of the unborn--whether they "only" support the murder of some innocents or the wholesale slaughter of innocents, there has been an alternative candidate this election cycle.
If I have to, I will write in his name.
As it stands, I won't vote to reelect anyone.
But I cannot support someone who supports abortion, period.
Here in Jacksonville, the cops shoot people who are suicidal.
“Trump is not going to have a fight with pro-life groups. Hitlery will promote killing babies already born.”
Correct. Looks like these supposed anti-abortion groups are merely Cruz supporters in drag.
No one is more Pro Life than me. While I am also of the opinion a baby conceived through rape or incest is innocent and should be protected, I also understand that is viewed as an extreme position to the vast majority of people.
An exception for life of the mother is reasonable. Not health of the mother since that simply is a loophole.
This issue alone, along with Cruz’s tent revival speaking style makes him unelectable in the America of 2016.
We’ve been slowing losing this country to the lefts incrementalism approach for decades. Lets work first on getting legislation passed and upheld that forbids partial birth abortion. Then after viability.
I have no doubt that Trump would sign a partial birth abortion ban.
That's cool. You will stand by and let Hillary win. As a result, hospitals would soon thereafter become required to offer abortion as a condition of receiving federal funds.
Meanwhile, the demographic transformation of the US will accelerate, and by 2020 (2024 at the latest), no conservative candidate will be able to be elected to the Presidency, Congress will be firmly in the hands of the Dems, as will more and more state governments.
But you will be able to stand with clean hands.
For me, I will get my hands dirty, and accomplish what I can, for the sake of my children and grandchildren. If at the end, my hands are deemed too dirty, then such shall be my fate.
Trump tries to stick with what can be done vs. going with idealistic platitudes - we need to take such step if we really want to change things for the better.
I asked Judge Bork what he thought of this idea, and he said, “Of course,” looking at me as though I had just said the most obvious thing in the world.
A few weeks after Roe and Doe, the bishops’ conference issued a statement saying [quoting from memory]: “It is the obligation of all public officials, at every level of government, to carry out the duties of their office AS IF THESE DECISIONS DID NOT EXIST.”
That is a statement of Catholic doctrine. That statement logically entailS nullification by every federal and state official. In fact, it logically entails a Nuremberg trial for every governor (even the “pro-life” ones) who has held office since 1973.
The bishops have NEVER made such a statement again. The pro-abortion bishops like Bernardin have dominated the public stage, and formulated the bishops’ policies ever since. They DID NOT FORESEE THAT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE MOST PRO-ABORTION PRESIDENT IN HISTORY MIGHT BE DANGEROUS.
“the three-time married billionaire”
I thought this post was about abortion? What does the number of times Donald Trump was married have to do with it?
NOTHING! It was just that the author thought they would take this as another opportunity to try and smear Trump. Last time I looked, marriage and divorce were LEGAL.
It should be reported after it happens so a rape kit can be used for DNA purposes, then a Morning after pill could be use to prevent conception, you have to also consider that the rapist has a STD.
I do not support abortion, but could tolerate the above a lot better than killing an existing Unborn fully formed child, that is more than a few cells. BS on life of the mother that is what C Sections were developed for.
Trump is positioning himself alongside the majority of Americans who oppose abortion, when you include these exceptions. Meaning that a majority of all Americans oppose abortion.
Juxtaposing himself with Cruz, who is against exceptions.
Even with this position, Trump is pro life, Hillary is pro abortion. Tempest in a teapot.
Myself I liked Trump’s earlier position that women and doctors should “be punished”.
I think they should be charged with MURDER as that is exactly what they are doing. Murder for hire, period.
The choice is not yet made and the more Trump outs himself as a liberal the more I hope for a brokered convention. Eventually conservatives infatuated with Trump will wake up - I pray before its too late.
I’ll agree with you Trump is fun to watch. He would make a great Vegas act.
The choice is not yet made and the more Trump outs himself as a liberal the more I hope for a brokered convention. Eventually conservatives infatuated with Trump will wake up - I pray before its too late.
I’ll agree with you Trump is fun to watch. He would make a great Vegas act.
We’ve been slowing losing this country to the lefts incrementalism approach for decades.
1. Changing the party’s platform...there was no one calling for this...but just because Trump suggested it...and could lose votes over it suddenly “conservatives” think it’s a good idea to change it???
2. Tax the rich????
3. “Planned parenthood does some good things”????
I could go on...there is no need...
I’m not trying to argue...but since you pointed out the lefts incrementalism...how do we stop that by supporting someone whose ideas on certain things would necessarily lead the party and our country farther left??
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