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So CBS news parrots Obamas line. But there is no proof that Obamacare and Medicaid have actually improved the HEALTH of low-income people. Insurance and doctor visits and diagnostic tests do not improve a persons health.

Good diet, exercise, avoidance of tobacco, alcohol, drugs lead to good health.

1 posted on 04/22/2016 7:51:24 PM PDT by spintreebob
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No, its making Americans poorer.


2 posted on 04/22/2016 7:54:42 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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It’s definitely made a lot of Americans poorer....


3 posted on 04/22/2016 7:55:02 PM PDT by JBW1949
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Wrong premise. Obozocare was never about “healthcare,” it was about control. Why else would they threaten you with fines or jail should you not subscribe to their version of socialized medicine? Will anyone be better off in jail or having the IRS go after you for the sake of conforming? Nonsense! The IRS said they were not the ones to enforce this—they lied again. Wake up people, this is not what our founders died for.


8 posted on 04/22/2016 8:01:29 PM PDT by Fungi
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If by “healthier” they mean avoiding the doctor & hospital due to $6K deductibles, um, sure...


12 posted on 04/22/2016 8:13:49 PM PDT by GnuThere
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We have BCBS....and are now REQUIRED to have a yearly pbysical and answer an asinine ‘questionnaire’. If we don’t....our rates will double.


14 posted on 04/22/2016 8:49:12 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (<<<<<<< he no longer IS my 'teddy bear'.)
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I do know that many working people can no longer afford both the premiums and the cost of actually using their coverage. That is not healthy.


15 posted on 04/22/2016 9:16:21 PM PDT by yawningotter
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Note: be careful of the question is interpreted! A program that, instead of dispensing any healthcare whatsoever, just had all the sick people shot to death, would “make Americans healthier” under a variety of ways of measuring overall health.

(Such a program would also increase the number of people ‘killed by guns’ - and therefore further justifying their confiscation from ordinary citizens, even though it wouldn’t be law-abiding citizens carrying out these shootings. Making it a twofer. “Look at all the wonderful things this administration is doing for our country!!”)


16 posted on 04/22/2016 9:17:28 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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Not FR correct but I'd say yes.

I've been insured and uninsured for significant times in my life but mostly insured and paying up to a thousand bucks a month wthl a 5000 deductible before O care. I finally just was priced out and went back to the VA.

I have always been healthier getting my care with the VA. Regular visits have that effect.

There is a real problem with the Feds forcing people to have health insurance but does the ends justify the means. e.g. healthier people, I think it does.

Putting on 4 flame suits...

17 posted on 04/22/2016 9:22:19 PM PDT by montanajoe
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The mortality rate has gone up steadily since Obamacare was passed, especially for whites.


18 posted on 04/22/2016 10:32:21 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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I’d be very surprised if low income substance abusers are taking advantage of free healthcare, especially considering how careless the government is with their personal information.


19 posted on 04/22/2016 10:55:16 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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I don’t believe that for a minute. Most have huge deductibles and are basically useless.


20 posted on 04/23/2016 1:11:19 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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“Good diet, exercise, avoidance of tobacco, alcohol, drugs lead to good health.”

Yes, and and a list of other things, including avoiding too much UV exposure (and using sunblock), and staying at a reasonable weight. It also helps a lot to have good genes.

21 posted on 04/23/2016 4:53:46 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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Coming from someone who works in the ER, I say not really. If anything, it’s making people more apt to be sloppy with themselves on the absurd notion that they can do so and just come running into the ER when they don’t feel right.

I admit I’m not a doctor and that there’s more to some problems than what’s on the surface, but from what I’m also hearing from the nurses and doctors I work with, a lot of people would do better just taking care of themselves and going to their PCP or a walk-in clinic. By coming to the ER when they just have a cold or a bellyache, they tie up resources and end up with a big bill because we have to run a bunch of tests to prove they don’t have something serious.


24 posted on 04/24/2016 5:14:01 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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