Posted on 04/22/2016 12:47:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Well, for one thing, it would be counterproductive. With three, four or five candidates drawing delegates, it simply prevents anyone from getting to 1237 and ensures that the GOPe gets to install one of their own establishment guys at the convention. The malleable "rules" are designed to to preserve, protect and defend the establishment ruling class. Nothing more.
Cruz knows this. He has betrayed the grassroots.
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If the shoe was on the other foot, Cruz would be calling for Trump to drop out. Cruz has already called for Kasich to drop out. I guess you wouldn’t have a problem with that if Trump and Kasich were working on preventing Cruz from getting the nominee.
“Vast majority will vote Trump over Hillary any day. Cruz would be wise to throw his support to Trump now for the open Supreme court spot.”
You could be right. I know I will vote for Trump over Hillary. I still think a Trump-Cruz ticket would create the most enthusiastic support.
Cruz is losing because his actions illustrate that he lacks judgement because he lacks morals and ethics. If any of my kids pulled the stunts Cruz has, I'd write them out of my will. Cruz is a disgusting excuse for a human being.
Is it too late for Ted Cruz to gain his sanity back? That is what you are really asking.
Crus is a stinking back-stabbing, two-faced liar. Do your homework on Cruz positions on open borders, amnesty, NAFTA, TPP, the shenanigans he pulled in Iowa. Even his emails begging for money were pathetic.
Glad to see some Ted Cruz supporters starting to take a realistic stock of the actual situation.
But please realize that most Americans are thinking in much more direct, simplistic terms. That's why they're going to go ahead and give Trump the 1,237 he needs before the convention. My current feeling is that Trump has the wind at his back.
But even if Trump only comes very close, but doesn't have the 1,237 delegates beforehand, I thinks it's pretty much a slam dunk that he can scratch together the few more that are needed.
But even if that's not possible for the first ballot, I simply don't see how the delegates will suddenly overthrow the will of the people and sidestep a person who has both energized the voters, and who has an enormous popular vote advantage.
Cruz limping in with even 800 delegates or so, is a recipe for disaster and splintering the party, and defeating the Revolution which is brewing.
We need this Revolution, and with Cruz cozying up to the GOPe for the last few months, he simply cannot lead it.
So it's either Donald Trump, or the Revolution fails.
I ask you: who in their right mind would want that?
I still believe that Cruz is doing the wrong thing, and, given the perception that he has stolen delegates (rightly or wrongly), he's really being naive to think that he can pull off such a stunt.
I'm noticing a slight improvement in the rancor around here, but I still see a distinct lack of respect for Donald Trump and what he has accomplished. Those who insist on the constant derogation and insults are totally blind at this point, IMHO.
And the character issues that Cruz has displayed are not illusory. I still say this with disbelief: he played the race card on Donald Trump, for God's sake! For me, that was a clear sign of moral shortcomings, and it wasn't the last. Cruz has acted like an absolutely stereotypical politician on several occasions, and, equally bad, he's jumped in bed with the GOPe. There's no chance of Ted Cruz being an anti-Establishment candidate unless he's on the ticket with Trump.
Vote Trump
*1860, not 1869...
Thanks for your thoughtful reply, sargon. Well said.
It ain't over till its over, Jim.
If Trump succeeds in getting 1237 ahead of the convention (and I mean really gets 1237 solid delegates, not counting those who are by definition "swing" delegates who can change even on the first ballot), then the nomination is rightfully Trump's and Cruz should step aside.
If not, then Trump is no more mathematically capable of being selected than is Cruz and one or the other has got to pull delegates commitments together in the home stretch. That's how this selection process has gone since the primary process as we know it today was instituted.
Cruz (97%) is the most conservative running. He is not a traitor to the grassroots any more than Lincoln was who outlasted former Governor of New York and U.S. Senator William H. Seward on the 3rd round. He's doggedly committed to the conservative message and Trump is doggedly committed to ... what? Himself? His "image" as he has said just today?
The media have made him the high profile personality that he is today, and a lot of folks are overwhelmed by the TV face the media have promoted all these years. He's edgy, controversial, brash, arrogant, - just like the media themselves - and better than that he's great for ratings.
His name recognition is 100%, but his support is surface and fickle -- like it is with most TV personalities.
Cruz? Not so much. He's the opposite of a media darling. He's "hated" in Washington, so they say, yet the GOPe at the end of this primary are wandering aimlessly. Tables are turned - Cruz has the GOPe - the same guys that fanaticized about killing him on the floor of Senate (i.e.., Graham) eating out of his hand now, not the other way around.
Cruz wins primaries with grassroots selected Tea Party delegates without ingratiating himself to the GOPe; they are forced to have to cozy up to Cruz the way we have held our collective noses to support McCain and Romney ourselves.
This time the shoe's on the other foot. Let's revel in that fact. Cruz is not GOPe and the GOPe knows they simply have nowhere else to go.
And all the less-than-organized Trump team does is whine, because Cruz knows how the game is played and Trump is still trying to catch on. Why do you suppose he hired GOPe insider Paul Manafort anyway? Trumpsters aren't complaining about Manafort's GOPe insider creds are they?
Where we're concerned, what Trump says isn't always conservative, even as his stated Trump Tower "tranny" bathroom acceptance pander yesterday seems to imply - all the while he strokes our side with his stated support for the NC bathroom law -- it's a throw away line, not a conviction -- hoping that makes it all better.
We are given the choice to hear what we want to hear as conservatives and the politically correct get to hear what they want to hear. And he'll call anyone a liar for calling him out on his inconsistency.
He's promoting an image. He says so. He's a canvas that conservatives and politically-left alike can project on to him anything they want him to be without a basis beyond words and positions he's adopted over the last 9 months. Sound like any other candidates we know that have run and become President recently?
Conservatives are placing their faith in Trump based largely upon slogans only. But he's a chameleon. He's excused bad past positions he's held, as expedient business decisions - but must one lose their character in the name of promoting their "business?" It gives business owners a bad name -- as though we all act so opportunistically to ingratiate ourselves to power. THAT is the embodiment of NY Values and exactly what Cruz was decrying at his own expense.
Trump wants it both ways. Cruz wants it the conservative way. And that's the difference between the two.
Funny thing is Lincoln was inaugurated in March, 1861 and those Southern State delegates that chose him were on the other side of the war before Lincoln's first year was out.
Who betrayed whom in the end?
FReegards!
Cruz isn’t all that much of a conservative; you just imagine he is...you bought his lies.
Thank you, Jim, for stating the facts !
Great post and I would love to hear what Rush and Levin would respond with. Your scenario challenge to Cruz supporters is wonderfully worded and a succinct way of having them consider the ramifications of their actions and efforts in futility at this point.
It’s over for Cruz. There is no path for him to the nomination that does not split the party and allow Hillary to destroy the nation.
Rubio lost his home state, was abandoned by his donors, and stayed in too long. Carson basically the same scenario. Jeb! stayed in way too long. Kasich is the one currently disrupting the primary.
Cruz #1
Trump #2
StopHillary!
>>>>They’ve got a whole lot of ammunition to use, too.<<<
like what? It’s the Hellery that has a closet full and always has.....who in in office has EVER used a drop of it?? i believe Trump has proven he will use it
The arkansides, whitewater, destroying Bill’s rape victim’s lives, Libya, IRS, fast and furious, open borders, china=clinton$, the “foundation”, soros, the server and e-mails,
LEAVING OUR AMBASSADOR AND OUR MEN TO DIE ABANDONED IN A SHITH*LE COUNTRY, and lie lie lie lie - it’s a video..
these are just the ones the public is aware of, there’s more .... and WHO has the mouth and pair to go with it to actually go after the old bat?? sure as heck hasn’t been Cruz so far, why? he could have talked about that instead of green eggs and ham.....
Cruz cannot stop Hillary. He’s her best path to the WH.
Yes which makes them both damaged goods. At this point both of them need to face the fact that the voters do NOT want either of them.
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