GOP risks suicide by stealing election from Trump

World Net Daily ^ | 4/19/16 | Pat Buchanan

[ek_hornbeck]

Donald Trump has brought out the largest crowds in the history of primaries. He has won the most victories, the most delegates, the most votes. He is poised to sweep three of the five largest states in the nation – New York, Pennsylvania and California.

If he does, and the nomination is taken from him, the Republican Party will be seen by the American people as a glorified Chinese tong.

Last week, Ted Cruz swept 34 delegates at the Colorado party convention. Attendees were not allowed to vote on whom they wanted as the party’s nominee.

This weekend, Cruz shut out Trump in Wyoming the same way.

What does this tell us? Cruz has a better “ground game.” His operatives work the system better. Ted Cruz is the king of small ball.

[publius911]

And in the end, that’s why the GOPe will support Trump, if not strongly at least as part of a deal to protect their congressional races.

"Protect" their congressional races?

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Dream on, LOSERS!

[Ohioan]

Trump has far more than “a shot.” The key to a Trump victory is to use his charisma on TV to explain the fuller context of issues to the public. Almost no one in politics today is doing this. Our politics have been dumbed down incredibly since the days of Webster, Clay & Calhoun. The crop of politicians trashing Donald do not even have the aptitudes to respond effectively, if Donald will simply use his best personal effort to explain the whys of our problems in a context that will trip the levers of credibility in the minds of the public.

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[AndyJackson]

They could go on playing the part of an impotent pseudo-opposition in Congress while continuing to milk conservative donors, just as they have been doing the past 7 years with Obama.

Not if they don't hold the house, they can't.

[Cen-Tejas]

I think the Republican Party has so alienated so many people that use to think of themselves as Republicans that the party should have what we call an “assets” sale. Meaning, if there is anything worth saving a newly formed replacement Party (e.g. The “Constitution Party”) buys it or takes it over and the Republcan Party apparatus that is left just passes into history! It’s dead, we just have not had the funeral.

[proust]

“He certainly is not a grassroots conservative.”

And a Bushy crony with a CFR Goldman-sachs wife is.

[publius911]

BS ignored...

[The Iceman Cometh]

Trump tantrum at loss kills it.

You call it a tantrum, I call it that Ted Cruz is such a miserable human being, people would rather chew glass than look at his wretched face and listen to his preachy lies.

[TTFlyer]

100% correct from the Number One Paleo-Conservative. Pat Buchanan tellin’ it like it is.

[Charlie Browns Gun]

I enjoy your enthusiasm, but I really don’t think Trump wins either. Yes, he’s a better candidate than Cruz. But there are too many butt hurt GOPe voters who won’t vote for him.

[publius911]

If the Republican party were to dissolve, I wonder how many current Republican elected officals would join the new party...and how many would join the Democrat party?

If the Republican party dies, I would join the new "Constitution First" party and reject all but the handful of truly conservative and outnumbered ex-republicans, no question.

[GingisK]

...they will try to shame and scare alienated Trump (and Cruz!) voters by saying it's our duty to stop Hillary...

This won't work. I will vote for Hillary in the hopes that she will precipitate the sorely needed CWII.

[publius911]

BS ignored...

[PapaBear3625]

From this primary onwards, my strategy is to vote for any challenger to the GOP incumbent in any race. I urge fellow FReepers to do otherwise.

[WMarshal]

If the Republican party were to dissolve, I wonder how many current Republican elected officals would join the new party...and how many would join the Democrat party?

The answer is, sadly, most of them.

[publius911]

BS Ignored...

[odawg]

“There are NO scenarios under which the GOP doesn’t die this cycle.

Tump nomination kills it.”

Only in your particular imagination.

“Trump tantrum at loss kills it.”

If it is stolen from Trump, any tantrum he justifiably has will be as nothing compared to the one thrown by millions of voters.

[publius911]

Ignorant BS ignored

[Jack Black]

So far from being "suicide," this is the GOP establishment's strategy for self-preservation: better to lose this election to another Democrat than risk having the party taken over by the grassroots.

Right. this is almost verbatim what the county chair from the GOP said to me when I was talking to him about his treatment of Ron Paul supporters in 2008. He said "they are trying to take over the party". It certainly seemed to him that the party belonged to him and the other long term activists and they were acting completely legitimately in protecting it from the outsiders.

I pointed out to him that nearly 100% of the attendees under age 35 at the caucus were supporting Ron Paul, and that for many it was probably their first experience with the Republican Party, and that it might make sense to at least treat them fairly. He was quite arrogant and was having none of it.

The Ron Paul contingent came back bigger and more determined in 2012, and the Tea Party in 2010 also started discomforting the GOP establishment by running real conservatives against squish incumbents. All sorts of jobs were viewed as sinecures by these people: port commisioner, regional transport boards, etc.

The county GOP powers were so incensed that the Ron Paul delegates came with a deep understanding of the rules in 20012 and basically tried to do to the GOP establishment what had been done to them four years previously that they ended our county convention without even choosing the delegates, essentially running out the clock and taking the delegate choice into the executive committee.

From the local newspaper, The Columbian is the story documenting the failure:

County GOP fails to fill its slate of delegates Convention in Vancouver breaks down in dispute

I was not a Ron Paul supporter in either election, but I was still appalled by the behavior of the GOP in our county. And when I see Ted Cruz wining these contests it leaves a very bad taste in my mouth, a taste which is not cleansed by the national GOP head saying "it's in the rules".

I agree with your statement, and I've seen it up close. For a lot of these people the party is more about personally taking care of them, than governing.

[publius911]

Stupid BS Ignored

[MichaelCorleone]

Maybe you don’t understand the situation.

If we don’t get the borders under control and even reverse the illegal invasions of the past 15 years, we’re through as a nation. Period.

The Constitution, the rule of law will then mean nothing. Our economy will surely collapse under the weight of an unsustainable debt load and an entitlement-minded citizenry.

If you know all this and still mock ‘the wall’, then you’re part of the problem. Maybe morphing into the NWO is just fine with you.