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To: Lakeshark
I am far more appalled, as you as a Trump supporter should be by the outrages committed daily on this forum by Trump supporters who have so degraded the level of discourse here to a degree that it might not be recoverable.

I have no brief to carry for Beck. I am put off by many of his excesses but he is not the candidate, Cruz is the candidate and Cruz has almost never put a foot wrong in this campaign. If you look at the Trump campaign it is the candidate himself who commits grotesquerie after gaffe, after inciting violence.

If I were Cruz I would downplay my association with Beck but I do not find the current state of the relationship between the two nearly as offputting as the malicious buffoonery of Donald Trump.

If you want to play the repudiation game, one usually indulged in by the left in New York City in which candidates are compelled to repudiate whole voting blocs as well as out-of-favor individuals, I suggest you start with Roger Stone.


55 posted on 04/16/2016 1:01:56 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Cruz is the candidate and Cruz has almost never put a foot wrong in this campaign.

"Cruz has almost never put a foot wrong in this campaign"?

You live in an alternate universe!

Cruz has made numerous missteps and has exposed himself as a naked, unprincipled opportunist. Ted Cruz has:

Those are just off the top of my head, I know I'm omitting several more.

"Cruz has never put a foot wrong in this campaign" is simply false...

57 posted on 04/16/2016 1:19:17 AM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: nathanbedford
Populism is the turf of demagogues.

Mobs are the tool of demagogues.

You find yourself in the midst of a mob.

58 posted on 04/16/2016 1:33:47 AM PDT by okie01 (The of the Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: nathanbedford
Nice dodge, sir. Cruz sat there while Beck said he was fulfilling the prophecies of Mormon doctrine.....

And said nothing. Nothing.

For you to say he has virtually never put a wrong foot forward is laughable, and shows just how idolatrous a lot of Cruz supporters are. Just start with that one.

Then move on to Cruz blaming Trump for the violence in Chicago. As you just did when you said Trump was the one who incited violence. It's no wonder Cruz supporters get flamed here. Saying things like that simply invites it, such a moronic thing to do, blame Trump for the violent thugs on the left, and the machinations of a deranged reporterette.

Then you can move on to Cruz blaming Trump for the Enquirer stories, without one shred of evidence.

And you have the nerve to say that Trump is the buffoon when you sit there saying things for the kettle.

So stop with this Cruz is the embodiment of perfection or Cruz is the perfect conservative candidate (Corker, TPP, his earlier before Trump positions on illegals and H1 visas) stuff that you all peddle. It's embarrassing.

And while you're at it, go ahead and explain how Cruz is "fighting the establishment" when he's accepted the establishment endorsements, money, and campaign strategies only in order to take out the front runner for them.

The good news: It's probably not going to work.

The bad news: If it does work, those same people Cruz has now thrown in with for political gain (so principled, yes?) will either throw him overboard for another candidate, or exact such huge parts of the so called conservative agenda from him, we might as well nominate Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, or John McCain again.

If that happens, and it's the likely outcome of the #neverTrump people, Cruz will have left everything for ashes and won't be able to be elected dog catcher again. He will become the most hated figure on the right, by the right, for a generation

And yes, even you know I'm right on that. You just won't ever admit it.

66 posted on 04/16/2016 11:18:10 AM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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