Posted on 04/12/2016 6:19:43 PM PDT by writer33
Today, the Missouri Secretary of State finally released the certified results of the March 15, 2016 Republican Primary. Donald Trump received 383,631 votes (40.84 percent), and Ted Cruz received 381,666 votes (40.63 percent). The miniscule difference in vote was 1,935 out of 939,270 votes cast. Based on the state’s winner-take-all system, Trump ended up with 37 delegates to Cruz’s 15. Under Trump’s definition of ‘stealing,’ did he steal from Cruz, or were those the rules?
The result in Missouri is even more lopsided. While only 1,935 votes out of 939,270 cast separate Trump and Cruz, Trump won over 70 percent of the delegates in the state based on these results.
Trump has taken to calling the delegate process “unfair,” and is saying that the rules have allowed Cruz to “steal” second ballot delegates. Trump’s convention manager Paul Manafort, has even called what Cruz is doing, “Gestapo Tactics.” That begs the question: Is Trump getting 247 percent more delegates than Cruz in Missouri fair?
The difference is the 12 delegate bonus was given to THE WINNER OF MOST VOTES. Not given out at a brunch.
I can only speak about Washington state, but I’m guessing it is similar. 27 people from my district are going to state. Mostly Cruz supporters, some Kasich, maybe a Rubio, a Bush, etc.. Several undecided or were not allowed to say (being GOP precinct chairs, etc.)’
But probably 90% for Cruz. There will be about 1500 elected delegates at the state convention that will have to vote in 44 delegates to the National Convention.
And lets say 55% of those 1500 delegates are Cruz supporters. It would not be odd that all 44 of the delegates going to national would also be Cruz supporters. Although I imagine that a lot of the well-known folks that are involved in the GOP party will get elected based on name recognition rather than who they prefer or their actual views. Like the local radio talk-show guy at my district (I think he liked Rubio.)
Of course in Washington state we also have a Republican primary, and the delegates from the state convention are bound to the primary winner. If it goes to a second ballot, they can vote for whomever they want to. (Even if they said they were for Cruz they could vote for Trump on the second if they want to.)
As I expected - when confronted with facts that challenge your twisted view of reality, you run.
I don’t understand it either. Did the 900,000 voters in CO vote on this convention system? Who came up with it?
The party did not decide who could (or could not) go to the precinct caucii. Any registered Republican could attend. 65,000 people chose to attend their precinct caucus instead of sleeping in or any number of other activities. Those who bothered to attend their precinct caucus then could choose delegates for the county assemblies, and those elected to attend the county assemblies voted who would be elected for the state convention. Likewise for the national.
Trump could have won this if only his campaign had an organization in Colorado that mobilized supporters to attend their precinct caucus. He was well informed on the way that delegates are chosen in Colorado, but it’s as if he really didn’t want to bother and he’s made a conscious decision to not put any effort into states that require delegate selection though the caucus model.
where is your proof that the GOP chose the delegates, I assume that you were not one? This has been the process for Colorado for the past forty years right or wrong. Where was the outrage when this process was originally started? The straw poll that was canceled, was not in any way shape or form connected with the delegate selection process. It was more a weather gauge for the delegates to see who the populace supported, but not vital to the process. When the GOP changed the rules, stating that any such vote had to be binding, the party decided to drop the meaningless vote.
“Do you wish to vote for a Cruz delegate, another Cruz delegate, or this other Cruz delegate? No, that Trump number was skipped because he was a Trump delegate. Which Cruz delegate do you wish to vote for?”
Andy, I was at one of the assemblies where Cruz swept in Colorado. There were plenty of Trump delegates to vote for and it was easy to know who they were. They had signs saying “Trump” and the like and hats with Trump’s name and they gave speeches about how Ted Cruz is a bad man and his wife is controlled by Goldman so vote for me as a delegate to the national convention.
Kasich also had folks there running for delegate and making speeches and holding up signs saying “Kasich.”
I heard those speeches by the Trump candidates with my own ears. The trouble was that the Trump and Kasich candidates for national delegate didn’t get enough votes. Why not? Because the delegates at the assembly (who were elected at caucus) voted for people who gave speeches in which they declared for Cruz. It’s that simple. Cruz had way more support in Colorado than Trump or Kasich. Trump has way more support in, say, NY. So he will win NY.
I’m curious can any of you Trump supporters tell me when it was Cruz wrote the rules for the Colorado election, if not what makes Cruz responsible for the injustice you percieve to have occurred in Colorado?
It’s called sarcasm. But then I can’t expect a Trump supporter to be any more intelligent the then their candidate.
Even when the people get to vote Trump cheats the system and ends up with way more delegates than his winning percentage should have allowed, also to call someone moron is a violation of the posting rules, try to control yourself going forward
Please, don’t ask too much from the Cruz folks.
They’re only out on leave from the asylum for a few weeks.
Well, since you have no idea what you are talking about, I guess I’ll pass.
You are just flat out wrong and uninformed. In the past, we elected delegates that were bound to a candidate at caucuses. I had participated in those myself. We did also have a caucuses this year and we did elect delegates, but they were non-binding delegates and the party discarded the results. It was nothing more then a meaningless straw poll. This year the Colorado gop chose the delegates, not the voters. Spin it anyway you like, that is just the fact.
Yes Donald, Colorado Did Vote…On March 1st
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