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As Ukraine Collapses, Europeans Tire of US Interventions
Freedom Outpost ^ | 4/11/2016 | Ron Paul

Posted on 04/12/2016 5:16:12 AM PDT by HomerBohn

On Sunday Ukrainian prime minister Yatsenyuk resigned, just four days after the Dutch voted against Ukraine joining the European Union. Taken together, these two events are clear signals that the US-backed coup in Ukraine has not given that country freedom and democracy. They also suggest a deeper dissatisfaction among Europeans over Washington’s addiction to interventionism.

According to US and EU governments – and repeated without question by the mainstream media – the Ukrainian people stood up on their own in 2014 to throw off the chains of a corrupt government in the back pocket of Moscow and finally plant themselves in the pro-west camp. According to these people, US government personnel who handed out cookies and even took the stage in Kiev to urge the people to overthrow their government had nothing at all to do with the coup.

When Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland was videotaped bragging about how the US government spent $5 billion to “promote democracy” in Ukraine, it had nothing to do with the overthrow of the Yanukovich government. When Nuland was recorded telling the US Ambassador in Kiev that Yatsenyuk is the US choice for prime minister, it was not US interference in the internal affairs of Ukraine. In fact, the neocons still consider it a “conspiracy theory” to suggest the US had anything to do with the overthrow.

I have no doubt that the previous government was corrupt. Corruption is the stock-in-trade of governments. But according to Transparency International, corruption in the Ukrainian government is about the same after the US-backed coup as it was before. So the intervention failed to improve anything, and now the US-installed government is falling apart. Is a Ukraine in chaos to be considered a Washington success story?

This brings us back to the Dutch vote. The overwhelming rejection of the EU plan for Ukrainian membership demonstrates the deep level of frustration and anger in Europe over EU leadership following Washington’s interventionist foreign policy at the expense of European security and prosperity. The other EU member countries did not even dare hold popular referenda on the matter – their parliaments rubber-stamped the agreement.

Brussels backs US bombing in the Middle East and hundreds of thousands of refugees produced by the bombing overwhelm Europe. The people are told they must be taxed even more to pay for the victims of Washington’s foreign policy.

Brussels backs US regime change plans for Ukraine and EU citizens are told they must bear the burden of bringing an economic basket case up to European standards. How much would it cost EU citizens to bring in Ukraine as a member? No one dares mention it. But Europeans are rightly angry with their leaders blindly following Washington and then leaving them holding the bag.

The anger is rising and there is no telling where it will end. In June, the United Kingdom will vote on whether to exit the European Union. The campaign for an exit is broad-based, bringing in conservatives, populists, and progressives. Regardless of the outcome, the vote should be considered very important. Europeans are tired of their unelected leaders in Brussels pushing them around and destroying their financial and personal security by following Washington’s foolish interventionism. No one can call any of these recent interventions a success and the Europeans know it.

One way or the other, the US empire is coming to an end. Either the money will go or the allies will go, but it cannot be sustained. The sooner the American people demand an end to these foolish policies the better.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; US: Kentucky; US: New York; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: dogeater; evilcluelessobama; evilregime; phonypresident
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American liberals and those idiots populating the halls of Congress don't learn from the mistakes THEY made which caused failure. (Insanity is defined as "doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result?")

That there are even refugees going to Europe and wanting to come to America is indicative of the failure of the policy. As with the inane and suicidal diversity in America, no foreign solution is acceptable. It will be rejected because it will not work. Yet, the morons in Washington think that it is humanitarian to create more debt through diversity.

1 posted on 04/12/2016 5:16:12 AM PDT by HomerBohn
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To: HomerBohn

I’m waiting for Belgium to collapse and jihadist massacres to sweep Germany.

I’ll do them the courtesy of opposing intervention.


2 posted on 04/12/2016 5:22:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Harvey Dent -- can he be trusted?)
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To: HomerBohn

The thing I wonder, is was it a set guarantee that Yanukovich was going to win a rigged re-election in the Ukraine, had there not been that “revolution” against him?

Also, I wonder how the world would see it if in 2015, a year before elections, a violent insurrection took place in the US toppling Obama, one with the KKK and white supremacists prominently taking part in the violence?

Could it be that the CIA and other Western intelligence agencies tossed in money to topple the Ukrainian government, and failed to realize that Putin would not tolerate Western forces potentially being stationed 300 miles from Moscow?


3 posted on 04/12/2016 5:22:44 AM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: ClearCase_guy
I’m waiting for Belgium to collapse and jihadist massacres to sweep Germany. I’ll do them the courtesy of opposing intervention.

I think that Brussels should be renamed "Dhimmiberg" and the EU should be renamed "Manginastan".
4 posted on 04/12/2016 5:24:15 AM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: baltimorepoet

The last paragraph could indeed be true. As convoluted and insane as the current U. S. foreign policy is concerned absolutely anything is possible.


5 posted on 04/12/2016 5:24:18 AM PDT by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: HomerBohn

GREAT TO SEE THE PUTINISTAS BACK!


6 posted on 04/12/2016 5:30:48 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: HomerBohn
That little McCain sponsored coup in Ukraine set US Russia relations back to the 1960s era. Hopefully we will live through it.
7 posted on 04/12/2016 5:33:33 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump is entertaining, but I will win Republican nomination - Jeb Bush)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yeah, I was wondering where they had gone seeing they had been quiet for a while.


8 posted on 04/12/2016 5:38:16 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: McGruff
That little McCain sponsored coup in Ukraine set US Russia relations back to the 1960s era. Hopefully we will live through it.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

9 posted on 04/12/2016 5:38:20 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: McGruff

McCain and Linda never met a war they didn’t like.


10 posted on 04/12/2016 5:44:08 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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“Europeans Tire of US Interventions”

Right, except when the interventions are on their behalf. Which is when they always suddenly love US interventions.


11 posted on 04/12/2016 6:01:40 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: HomerBohn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIvRljAaNgg


12 posted on 04/12/2016 6:08:09 AM PDT by PGalt
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Considering Washington’s ‘foolish interventionism’ has resulted in the muslim brotherhood takeover of the middle east AND the creation of ISIS, I don’t blame them


13 posted on 04/12/2016 6:34:21 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: HomerBohn

Sounds like this was written in Moscow. Freedom’s outpost seems to to quite fit the narrative. I choose to see it differently: Europe knows it is on its own with our own radical marxist in the White House. Everything he touches turns to sh!t.


14 posted on 04/12/2016 6:35:02 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: Gay State Conservative
Tell you what.

When you pay for all this nonsense out of your own pocket, then you can engage in all the mischief abroad that you please.

15 posted on 04/12/2016 6:55:55 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: HomerBohn

Apparently the progressives on this board don’t learn from mistakes, either.

Interventionism is not a conservative value - quite the opposite, in fact.

People who would expose yourselves along with the rest of us to nuclear retaliation over places like Estonia are Dr. Strangelove level insane.


16 posted on 04/12/2016 7:03:26 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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was it a set guarantee that Yanukovich was going to win a rigged re-election in the Ukraine, had there not been that “revolution” against him?

The opposition was divided into three groups and there was no unifying leader to bring them all together, so the odds of defeating the incumbent Yanukovich through the democratic process did not look favorable.

Yanukovich had also successfully negotiated an economic package of low interest loans, trade preferences and energy subsidies with Russia that would have lifted the Ukrainian economy and provided a cushion for the country's debt load.

As much as they like to protest otherwise, Neocons really don't believe in or have much use for national sovereignty or the democratic process.

17 posted on 04/12/2016 7:04:53 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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The coup occurred in the middle of the Moscow Olympics when Putin couldn’t do anything in response. He’s never forgotten the insult.


18 posted on 04/12/2016 7:14:17 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("You know who gets hurt? The people who worked hard, lived frugally, and saved their money."- Trump)
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Interventionism is not a conservative value

That's correct, and those that oppose it are labeled as isolationists.
19 posted on 04/12/2016 11:15:05 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: thoughtomator
When you pay for all this nonsense out of your own pocket...

Excellent job translating that from the original Russian!

20 posted on 04/12/2016 2:03:41 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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