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My NC GOP District convention report
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Posted on 04/11/2016 6:27:26 AM PDT by FR_addict

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To: FR_addict

thank you for the reply. I guess my point was that you used the word “steal” and when pressed for further explanation you said this: “But stacking the deck is going on all over the country and Cruz supporters are very proud of this”. The stacking of the deck is HOW THE PROCESS IS DONE.

I completely understand the Trumpeters being unhappy about their candidate losing these delegates but their disapproval should not fall on Cruz who is merely campaigning according to the rules that have been in place, state by state, for years. Part of running for president is knowing this terrain. Rather, their anger should be directed at their own candidates campaign for not caring enough to follow through. There have been articles for the better part of a year about the ground game that Cruz was putting in place in every state. It seems that a prudent candidate would at least investigate why his opponent was doing that.

Cheers to you.


41 posted on 04/11/2016 7:52:33 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: SoothingDave
You GOPee types make me laugh.

You must think that whoever the GOPee nominee is for the general election will be able to FORCE all those people who voted Republican in the primary, to vote Republican in the general election.

The ones who stood in line for the first time to vote for Trump won't show for anyone but Trump.

Face it - we had the November election in the bag two months ago. The GOPe threw it away by deliberately damaging its leading candidate, Trump.

Which they continue to do, daily.

42 posted on 04/11/2016 7:55:21 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: SoothingDave
Your vote determines how the delegates vote on the first ballot. If someone has a majority of votes on the first ballot, then it’s over.

I've got a bad feeling that when Trump's delegate numbers exceed 1,237, the GOPe will just change the rules.

43 posted on 04/11/2016 7:57:01 AM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: FR_addict
Some of the Cruz people did not intend to vote for Trump even on the first vote, although he won the state.

If they are bound delegates, they have to vote for whoever won the state (or proportionally if that is the way the state goes).

If they are unbound, then they are unbound. This is why Trump is failing, he is placing all his bets on winning on the first ballot.

44 posted on 04/11/2016 7:57:14 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: kiryandil

You Trump true believers make me laugh. Trump is a big loser in a general election, which is why all sensible people want to deny him the nomination.

That he makes it easy by not even trying to earn delegates is his own fault.

If Trump voters came out of the shadows to vote for the very first time and will disappear back into the shadows if they don’t get their way, then that is no big loss. A noisy, unappeasable minority is not a great asset.

“Nominate our guy despite the fact that 70% of the populace hates him, or we won’t vote for you.”


45 posted on 04/11/2016 8:02:03 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Flick Lives
I've got a bad feeling that when Trump's delegate numbers exceed 1,237, the GOPe will just change the rules.

That would be a suicidal move, so don't expect that. If Trump gets a majority of delegates on the first ballot, he will win the nomination.

Trump will lose badly and will scapegoat the party and others.

46 posted on 04/11/2016 8:03:47 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Flick Lives

“I’ve got a bad feeling that when Trump’s delegate numbers exceed 1,237, the GOPe will just change the rules.”

That’s my feeling too. It’s just a rule and they can change the rule since they are the ones who make the rules. They would rather have one of the elites from either party in than Trump.


47 posted on 04/11/2016 8:04:08 AM PDT by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: Axeslinger; FR_addict
Cruz is Bob Dole without the excitement factor.

The only voters who will show up in the general for a Cruz nominee are these zealous party insiders.

It'll be the quickest general election in decades.

48 posted on 04/11/2016 8:04:22 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: kiryandil

ok, you’re opinion is duly noted. I disagree. But that wasn’t what was being discussed, was it?


49 posted on 04/11/2016 8:08:45 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Your naivete and optimism are refreshing. Deluded, but refreshing.

The differences expressed by Freepers sort of reminds me of the differences between Steve Rogers and Tony Stark in the "Avengers" series. Rogers (Captain America) is a man out of time. Resuscitated from falling into suspended animation in the 40s, he retains the mores, optimism and beliefs of post WWII America, where the government is a force for good and can be trusted (never mind the later movie). Stark (Iron Man) on the other hand, is the ultimate cynic, wary of accepted standards of honesty or morality by one's actions, especially by actions that exploit the scruples of others (reminds me of a certain candidate - but I digress). Stark suspects the worst of any overarching organization.

50 posted on 04/11/2016 8:10:11 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The GOPe deserve nothing more than a middle finger)
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To: SoothingDave
You Trump true believers make me laugh.

Dave, Dave, Dave. Stop being a binary thinker. Not everyone who finds Cruz distasteful is a Trump supporter. Some of us have taken the measure of the man and come away terribly disappointed.

51 posted on 04/11/2016 8:13:35 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The GOPe deserve nothing more than a middle finger)
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To: COBOL2Java

Yes. If all of this was happening with Democrats doing this to “Republicans,” the outcray would be deafening.

But BusTed gets away with this garbage.


52 posted on 04/11/2016 8:14:20 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: COBOL2Java

I was addressing someone that was talking about how all of Trump’s new voters were going to take their ball and go home. I took that to be a Trump supporter.

I also take your point. I suppose there are some who think playing by the rules is so distasteful that they hate a guy who does it.

Not sure I understand, but OK. I was never a Cruz supporter. I am a Not Trump supporter and Cruz is all we have left now.


53 posted on 04/11/2016 8:16:24 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: LS
Yes. If all of this was happening with Democrats doing this to “Republicans,” the outcray would be deafening.

If Democrats were getting themselves named as delegates to the GOP convention? Is that what you meant?

54 posted on 04/11/2016 8:17:22 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: LS

The good news is that if Cruz is the nominee for the general, the GOPe will only have to rent one school bus per state to get all the Cruz voters to the polls...


55 posted on 04/11/2016 8:18:23 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: FR_addict
That’s my feeling too. It’s just a rule and they can change the rule since they are the ones who make the rules. They would rather have one of the elites from either party in than Trump.

Which is precisely what will happen. Cruz and Kasich will be responsible for handing the nomination to one of the GOPe's picks, who like in '08 and '12, will lose to the Democrat1. Then the GOPe - who hates Cruz, will seize the opportunity to stab him in the back, blaming him for the Republicans' loss (it's all Kabuki Theater). Win/Win for the GOPe, Lose/Lose for Cruz.

Kasich, who may not be as brilliant as Cruz, is much more savvy in the way of the GOP machinations (don't discount longevity in the GOP). I'm sure he's negotiated a nice cushy post-election position for himself.


1. The GOPe - a fully-owned subsidiary of the UniParty - wants to lose anyway. This keeps the gravy train rolling for them.
56 posted on 04/11/2016 8:18:47 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The GOPe deserve nothing more than a middle finger)
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To: COBOL2Java; FR_addict

Who do you guys think votes on the rules?


57 posted on 04/11/2016 8:20:13 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: LS
But BusTed gets away with this garbage.

For now.

58 posted on 04/11/2016 8:20:14 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The GOPe deserve nothing more than a middle finger)
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To: FR_addict

Just saw this.
Is this even legal?????

“3m3 minutes ago

Stephen Bennett; @ScreedofChucky

Just got an email from #LyinTed that I can become a ‘Deputy Delegate’ w donation of $35 or more. Uhhh no thanks #NeverCruz. Not now not ever”


59 posted on 04/11/2016 8:21:26 AM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: SoothingDave
Who do you guys think votes on the rules?

Who do you think got Thad Cochran back in the Senate?

60 posted on 04/11/2016 8:21:44 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The GOPe deserve nothing more than a middle finger)
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