Kasich: 'Establishment' not going to let Trump, Cruz become nominee

The Washington Examiner ^ | April 10, 2016 | By Rudy Takala (@RudyTakal

[Cheerio]

Do it - I wish the GOPe would end this in 2016!!!!

[PapaBear3625]

Ted Cruz won the US Senate seat in Texas, despite furious opposition from McConnell and the GOPe and against great odds.

The opposition he had two years ago is nothing, compared to what he will face in 2020 if he fails to stop Trump.

And, no, the Establishment will not tolerate Cruz becoming President. If Cruz goes even a millimeter "off script", his entire past will be laid bare.

[SmokingJoe]

You are going to have to read up on who has been working on the delegate selections in the states to make sure that people sympathetic to his cause are selected as delegates and getting his people into the all important rules committee.
Hint : Its not Donald tRump.
Another hint: his name starts with a “C”

By the time they get to Cleveland, it will be all over unless tRump gets it on first ballot. He won’t.

[jetson]

I kind of recall the Nazis rigging elections.

[baltimorepoet]

Yeah. I’m thinking those positions won’t sit well with us vulgarians who support both candidates. As a Cruz guy Trump is my second choice. Hope it is reciprocal with the Trump folks. So, no Kasich ...ever.

I am going for Trump; Cruz would be my second choice & I will vote Cruz over Sanders or Hillary.

But screw Kasich, Ryan, Romney. I will cast a vote for Sanders or Hillary over Rhinos. If someone (i.e. establishment RINO) other than Trump or Cruz gets the nom, then it is time to implode the GOP.

[SmokingJoe]

Chuckle!
You have no idea what odds Ted Cruz overcame to win that US Senate seat. For starters he was at like 3% in the polls, and the margin of error was 5%. His opponent had the entire GOPe behind him and had over 100 times as much money as Ted Cruz. Cruz still won
Your post is stupid. Mitch McConnell is simply not in a position to threaten Ted Cruz over his reelection in any way.

[JerseyDvl]

We’ll see old smoky but this will due people up and enable an easy 1237 and first ballot success.
If I’m wrong then I’ll gladly eat crow.

[DrewsDad]

Cruz has majorities in Colorado, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Texas, Utah, Wisconsin, and likely Wyoming(9-1-1-1 with 14 selected this weekend). He also has a strong chance in several more states.

[Eric Pode of Croydon]

Trump is the man who has premised his whole campaign on his ability to make deals, winning deals, deals that are good for America, with the bad guys.

Bad guys like Reid and Pelosi, not to mention our enemies in China, Russia, and Iran.

So if he arrives at the convention with (say) 1,187 delegates, he'll need to put all his legendary deal making skill to work.

If he can do that, and get the nomination, I'll publicly apologize on FR for everything negative I've ever said about Trump's competence.

[thoughtomator]

As subservient to the machine as he may be, he’s more Outer Party than Inner and a lot of GOPe despise him personally (as Lindsey Graham’s recent comments made clear).

That Cruz is an establishment stalking horse shouldn’t be in question. There’s only a handful of people who worked on the North American Union and one of them is his wife. No loyal American would let their spouse participate in such a thing.

[PapaBear3625]

You have no idea what odds Ted Cruz overcame to win that US Senate seat.

Oh, I do. Cruz lost the initial primary election, winning in the runoff by a moderate amount.

My point is, it would not take much more to make him lose his Senate seat in 2020.

[Fantasywriter]

What percentage of the popular vote did Cruz get in Colorado?

[itsahoot]

Lincoln won on the fourth ballot.

And then over 500,000 Americans died in the most uncivil war in our history.

[SmokingJoe]

Oh, I do. Cruz lost the initial primary election, winning in the runoff by a moderate amount.

My point exactly! That is why Cruz is going to crush Trump at the convention, even if he is behind in the delegate count going into the convention.
Same end result : Cruz wins.
Cruz knows the rules. tRump doesn't. For reference, look what happened in Colorado over the weekend.

[DrewsDad]

The State GOP set the rules to hold a caucus.

Do you think this caught Trump by surprise?

[Pravious]

“Cruz on the second ballot. You heard it here first.”

Okay... WHY?

If the delegates pick a candidate other than the front runner (who, you must admit, will probably be Trump) the only reason for doing so is that they do not consider the front runner to be the strongest candidate against the Democrat.

Do you wish to argue that Ted Cruz, who’s only supported by the far right (and most certainly will continue to be) has more crossover (and thus wider) appeal than Donald Trump? I can’t see ANY way in which he would be a stronger candidate against Hillary, so I can’t see ANY reason why delegates would put him in a position to run against her.

As for Kasich, I’m not sure if he’s delusional or just coming up with BS to cover the fact that he has absolutely NO reason (other than a spoiler) to remain in this race. Kasich, too, doesn’t have a prayer against Hillary.

[Fantasywriter]

What was the overall voter turnout for the caucuses, and what percentage of the popular vote did Cruz get?

[SmokingJoe]

As for Texas and McConnell having any influence in the US Senate primaries, forget it. Its not gonna happen. McConnell is about as popular as poison in Texas and Ted Cruz is a hero in Texas for standing up to the GOPe. You should have been there when Ted Cruz went back to Texas after his filibuster of Obamacare. He got a hero's welcome.
No one can beat Ted Cruz in Texas.

[DrewsDad]

You would have to ask someone who attended the Colorado State Convention/Caucus on the numbers and votes.

The Green Papers - Colorado Republican

[SmokingJoe]

Do you wish to argue that Ted Cruz, who’s only supported by the far right (and most certainly will continue to be) has more crossover (and thus wider) appeal than Donald Trump?

He doesn't have to argue anything. The Real Clear Politics averages for head to heads with Hilary Clinton does all the arguing. Ted Cruz does VASTLY BETTER against Hilary Clinton than Sleazy tRump does. And its been like that for close to a year. Its not going to change.