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Mexico tortures migrants – and citizens – in effort to slow Central American surge
The Guardian ^ | April 4, 2016 | Nina Lakhani

Posted on 04/04/2016 11:00:58 AM PDT by detective

Amy and Esther Juárez were edgy with excitement as they boarded the bus full of seasonal workers heading for a farm at the other end of Mexico from their home in the poverty-stricken southern state of Chiapas.

Although their brother Alberto,18, had made the same journey the previous year, it was the first time Amy, 24, and Esther, 15, had left the tiny indigenous community where they had grown up.

But about half-way there, immigration agents boarded the bus, and after checking all the passengers’ papers, ordered the three siblings to get off.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: bordersecurity; mexico
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This is what we are up against. The corrupt, criminal, narcotics controlled government of Mexico receives millions of dollars each year from the U.S. government.

But they work to undermine border security.

We need Trump.

1 posted on 04/04/2016 11:00:58 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective

We need a wall...and more!


2 posted on 04/04/2016 11:01:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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Why hasn’t anyone said, “All we want is to have the same immigration laws that Mexico has.”


3 posted on 04/04/2016 11:01:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: detective

Oh, the irony!


4 posted on 04/04/2016 11:02:02 AM PDT by rdl6989
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And they are still blaming us. Lol

The trend comes amid a crackdown on migrants driven in part by political pressure and financial aid from the US. Deportations have already risen exponentially since summer 2014 when Barack Obama declared the surge in Central American child migrants a humanitarian crisis. Campaigners say that Mexico migration officials are running a secret quota system to increase the number of expulsions.


5 posted on 04/04/2016 11:05:31 AM PDT by sheana
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Mexico treats its’ indigenous population like crap, It’s just as bad as Apartheid-era South Africa.

But only those “evil Gringo Americans” ever get the bad press.


6 posted on 04/04/2016 11:06:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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“Why hasn’t anyone said, “All we want is to have the same immigration laws that Mexico has.””

Many people have said that.

They have all been ridiculed or ignored.

7 posted on 04/04/2016 11:13:25 AM PDT by detective
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What do they do? Waterboard? Panties on their heads?


8 posted on 04/04/2016 11:30:59 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: dfwgator

We’re aiding and abetting ethnic cleansing with our open borders policies.


9 posted on 04/04/2016 11:42:31 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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“Mexico treats its’ indigenous population like crap, It’s just as bad as Apartheid-era South Africa.

But only those “evil Gringo Americans” ever get the bad press.”

Exactly. I’d love to see a few million military age men stay bottled up in Mexico agitating for change against the corrupt Mexico City cartel rather than us being used as their poverty safety valve.

Time to turn this around on México to address their dirty little fiefdom.


10 posted on 04/04/2016 11:45:27 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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That’s why I’ve never understood why the Mexicans who do come here to the US still proudly wave the Mexican flag.

Would a black person fleeing South Africa proudly display the Apartheid-era South African flag once they arrived in their new country?


11 posted on 04/04/2016 11:48:34 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Why is this not the headline story on NY & LA Slimes, WAPO and every other apparatchik newspaper?


12 posted on 04/04/2016 12:14:45 PM PDT by Cyman
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“That’s why I’ve never understood why the Mexicans who do come here to the US still proudly wave the Mexican flag.”

In part, in my opinion, because they've been told over and over that it is the fault of the US that Mexico can't provide them with opportunity. It's also a very commonly held belief that the US ‘stole’ the southwest (including California) from Mexico, and that this is another reason why there's no opportunity for them in Mexico. Some might feel like patriots of some sort. These beliefs are very helpful for the Mexican government, as they provide a safety valve for the resentment that would likely be directed at them if there wasn't the ‘bad’, ‘greedy’, and ‘racist’ US as a scapegoat. I've never understood why the US has not pushed back against this characterization and put the blame squarely on the corrupt Mexican government.

Regarding the Chiapas issue, I've seen this first hand in Mexico city. The person I was with, who is from Mexico but now living in the US (legally), routinely told me how prejudiced and bad the US was and how they had stolen California, and how horrible it was that there was any call to stop illegal immigration, because ‘they are just here to pick YOUR tomatoes’. When confronted with protesters proclaiming the rights of those indigenous people from Chiapas, he was very critical of them. The hypocrisy was more than self-evident.

13 posted on 04/04/2016 12:45:49 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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Same immigration laws as Mexico has on its southern border? You betcha. Why not? Fair is fair.


14 posted on 04/04/2016 12:50:43 PM PDT by Cloverfarm
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Talk about corruption-these people are all the same to begin with-a mixture of Native American and Spanish for several centuries-not much “pure” ethnic identity on either side-this is just a corrupt and stupid game...

Native Americans are not actually a race, anyway-their DNA shows them to have been a mix of Asian/Eurasian/and European long before the Spanish ever came over. My ancestors from Spain were mestizos within less than 100 years after arrival from Spain, and intermarried with Apaches after arrival in Texas-it was totally common.

Considering how many centuries Spaniards and Native Americans have been interbreeding in Mexico and Central America, where are they getting people who are not Mestizo-are they importing them from Spain again?


15 posted on 04/04/2016 12:54:56 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Those people don’t want to see facts-it might make too much sense. Get someone on either side of the argument a DNA test-I’ll bet not 25% of the people in any self-proclaimed indigenous tribe on either side of the US border is pure American Indian-with the exception of tribes in the isolated areas of S. America like the Amazon.

There was some tribe in the northern US proclaiming their ethnic purity-until DNA testing showed them to be one of the very first tribes to interbreed with Europeans who came here, based on the percentage of European DNA and how prevalent it was...


16 posted on 04/04/2016 1:04:30 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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Can you remotely imagine the outcry if the U.S. decided to do that to any illegal?


17 posted on 04/04/2016 1:19:11 PM PDT by DaveA37
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18 posted on 04/04/2016 1:24:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: DaveA37

No s***-someone should lobby congress to put sanctions on the Mexican government for human rights violations-I speak Spanish as my second language-if some immigration agent came to a jobsite, grabbed me and said I was Mexican because I spoke Spanish and he thought I looked as if I have Spanish ancestry and tried to detain/deport me I would sue the minute I had access to a lawyer, if I survived...


19 posted on 04/04/2016 1:47:33 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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The New York Times and Washington Post will ignore this story...


20 posted on 04/04/2016 2:01:34 PM PDT by GOPJ ("We have the fight of our lives coming up to save our nation!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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