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To: mkjessup; xzins; Jim Robinson; 20yearsofinternet; tirednvirginia; PJBankard; stephenjohnbanker; ...

Actually this was a terrible thread. Had the original poster made an argument regarding abortion and what should be the consequences to woman who have abortions it would be a lively and informative thread.

However, the poster used abortion as an opportunity to bash Mr. Cruz even going so far to say the Mr. Cruz must support abortion.

Unfortunately for the poster Mr. Trump changed his mind (again) and left the poster hanging out to dry.

As I said earlier this is silly season though and we will have to slog through a lot more of these on both sides.


192 posted on 03/30/2016 7:49:14 PM PDT by Lakewood
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To: Lakewood; mkjessup; xzins; Jim Robinson; 20yearsofinternet; tirednvirginia; PJBankard; ...

I disagree to an extent that this article was pointless. First Trump shouldn’t have back pedaled. His initial statement (summary/paraphrase) “illegal actions have to have consequences” is spot on correct. Trump retracted the statement when the “pro-life” movement got all up in arms about it, which blows my mind.

Trump’s statement did one thing, it showed the true colors of a lot of people. Stating that women who get abortions should not face any consequences for their participation is the ultimate conundrum of the pro-life movement. How do you stop abortions when you don’t want consequences for those wanting one?

I’ve seen several try to compare how to stop abortions to the supply and demand equation, but they always miss the key point. The basic premise of it is there is a demand for abortion, abortionists supply that demand. If you kill the supply, there will be no abortions. The problem is that the demand for abortions is unaffected, and where there is a demand a supply will sprout, thus comes black market abortion clinics. If there is no consequence for women getting abortions they aren’t going give up the BMAC. No incentive, thus abortions continue and the abortion ban law is meaningless.

To properly stop abortion, abortion needs to be declared illegal and all parties involved should face consequences, with mitigating circumstances such as coerced or forced abortions having some exception. The severity of the consequences are debatable and could be set by the states. By seeking consequences for all parties involved with exceptions noted, you target both the supply and the demand. This would close all abortion clinics, thus reducing abortions. Those that still seek abortions would go to the BMACs and when caught would make a deal for a lesser consequence to give up the BMACs, thus shutting them down and again even less abortions.


195 posted on 03/30/2016 8:24:23 PM PDT by PJBankard (Donald Trump is the Honey Badger of Politics)
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