Posted on 03/29/2016 6:11:04 PM PDT by SJackson
The problem with some of those descriptions is this.
You could have a campground at your back 100 yards away, and still be safe shooting in the opposite direction, so a few miles is not specific enough.
Call me rather skeptical, but parts of that area are just simply desert. Day use? Seems to me that’s kind of a stretch. “Hey, we’ll tell you what public lands you can use and when.” I’ll bet locals are out there goofing off all the time at night.
The chanting of Islamic things is problematic. I think that’s enough to call attention to these folks and roust them for information and identification, so I’m not entirely defending these guys.
I’ve also seen government types blow things way out of proportion at times. Some of this seems to lean in that direction.
If this were any other group, I’d pretty much suggest they should cut them some slack. With this group, I wouldn’t.
I think was bothers me is the flimsy excuses they use. Just call it a problematic group and be done with it. Don’t bring up 1938 spitting on the sidewalk type of justifications.
Yes. And this is 50 miles from San Bernadino. Investigated by the San Bernadino Sheriff.
I doubt and still doubt the photos posted, the entire Adelanto police department responding to something in Apple Valley? Not on light on and neatly parked to a shots fired call?
As for the Muslims, plenty in the area. Would not surprise me if there was training going on.
Good thing they didn’t have them swastikas, rebel flags, horses, Harley Davidson motorcycles, etc.
Just your ordinary turban wearing, alhu-akbar chanting guys.
San Bernardino County is massive in size, going from Claremont CA to the Nevada border. This would likely be handled by the Barstow office.
Were they celebrating Easter and Purim?
Not sure why Adelanto cops were there. Perhaps an arrangement with the San Bernardino sheriff who must be spread pretty thin over their giant county.
However the camp ground was closer to Victorville which must have a much larger police force. Why didn't they respond?
UPDATE - there are no Victorville cops, they contract the sheriff.
Another issue that should be mentioned is that a lot of inner city folks have moved up to that area. So there’s a crime problem up there too.
The Old Jihadis Almanac
April 2016
Jihad Probability
(1 through 5 crescents)
1st - 7th: 1 crescent
8th - 11th: 3 crescents
12th - 18th: 1 crescent
19th - 21st: 5 crescents
22nd - 30th: 4.5 crescents
Plenty of people go out to the remote areas of the high desert to go shooting. Nothing unusual about that. The description as Middle Eastern and wearing “turbans” is definitely an outlier for the typical shooter in that area.
Another update to the above - there are no Apple Valley cops either. They contract the Sheriff.
Not sure why little Adalento has it’s own police force though.
Wrong! This incident would be handled by the Victorville
San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Station.
Thanks for your comments. Yes, people go out to remote places and fire their weapons. There are places like that in regions around Southern California.
This was also a night-time situation. Who knows? You get a bunch of rednecks out there at night, and they may be yelling out all sorts of things. You never know if this is really problematic, or if some good old boys were out there cutting it up in a group.
There may be reports out there that eliminate this possibility, just tossing it out there.
Yeah I’m guessing southern California is a little different than where I’m at and would be treated much differently if there was a bunch of shooting at night :)
The coverage is unreliable. The site CBS cites is a day use area, a series of hot springs. Shouldn’t be there, if you are should have the common sense not to discharge firearms, which I doubt is legal. Bet the local high school kids know that. But you’re right, they could have been outside of the day use area. And could have been sure of their impact area. At night. I agree the chanting of Allau Akbar is an issue. But if they fired 100 rounds, that’s an issue too, even in a rural area. I hear a round or two, it’s a varmint biting the dust, or a poacher. Five or six, my mind is working, dozens, I’m calling the sheriff. We’ll see what happens.
I’d defer to you on that, going by the article. Obviously something must have interested the FBI
Yes I was wrong. I took the news report of Ademnto cops to be correct.
Adalento is simply a Sheriff's substation just like Victorville. I'm sure they would just dispatch the least busy local sheriffs to the camp ground.
From wiki -
Until 2001, Adelanto had its own police department, which was disbanded due to massive corruption, but now contracts with the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department for police services. The Adelanto Substation is located on US Highway 395 and Bartlett Avenue. The station provides full service law enforcement for the City of Adelanto, and unincorporated areas of the Victor Valley such as Phelan, Lucerne Valley, and Spring Valley Lake. The former regional station (next to the Victorville Courthouse) serving unincorporated areas of the Victor Valley was consolidated into the Adelanto Station in 2009. Until 1999, fire protection was provided by the city's own fire department. The city now contracts with the San Bernardino County Fire Department. There are two stations located within the city limits providing paramedic service as well as fire and rescue services. Ambulance and patient transportation is provided by American Medical Response.
When you say training I think Jamaat ul-Fuqra, the Pakistani non terror terror group with a number of camps in the US. There appears to be a camp in Oak Hill, CA, in the neighborhood.
Old thread Seeking Freepers for Jihadi Training Camp Observation and Information They'd have the sense to confine their firing to their land, and not likely at night
You are correct; at this point in time, the MSM would never cover this story. That is why I despise them.
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