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Stop Sending Your Kids to Liberal Universities, says University President
Accuracy in Academia ^ | March 28, 2016 | Spencer Irvine

Posted on 03/28/2016 10:29:51 AM PDT by Academiadotorg

The president of the evangelical Oklahoma Wesleyan University, Dr. Everett Piper, was adamant about sending children to the right university and academic institution, in his recent interview with The Daily Caller’s Ginni Thomas. When Thomas asked him what could be done about sending children to liberal institutions, Piper said, "Stop sending your kids to these institutions that teach this pablum."

Then, he gives advice on how to distinguish what universities are teaching their students. "Obviously, it can be found out easily by checking the news," he said. But, he added, if you have reservations about the institution, "do two simple things: pull the president aside, find the college president or university president [and] demand a meeting. And … if they don't grant you that meeting, that tells you that you should not go there."

Piper said, "This is your money and you have the right to talk to me [i.e. university presidents]. Pull the president aside and ask two simple questions: what's your view of truth? And what's your view of scripture?" He said that if the university presidents waffle on this answer "if they can't tell you that truth is an objective reality, endowed to us by our Creator with certain unalienable rights, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness…if truth isn't an immutable objective fact, then why would you want to send your kid to that school?"

He averred, "I don't give degrees and opinions at Oklahoma Wesleyan University. I want you to learn something. Opinions are dangerous, they always enslave; truth sets us free." Piper concluded, "As a Christian, I think the question, what's your view of scripture, is critical." Why? "Because that tells you what the institution believes in regard to the revelation, the revelation of truth as opposed to this postmodern construct of making it up as you go," said Piper.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: christiancolleges; education; highereducation; scripture; universities
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Parents and students can, and should, vote with their feet.
1 posted on 03/28/2016 10:29:51 AM PDT by Academiadotorg
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To: Academiadotorg

I agree, but it’s really hard. Take Hillsdale, for example: 1) it’s remote as heck, so the “social life,” whether it’s concerts, restaurants, musicals, dance-—it doesn’t exist.

2) It doesn’t have an engineering school (could be wrong, but I don’t think it has a b-school, either). I’d say 90% of my students every year are either engineering or business.

Those are significant drawbacks. Same with Grove City, or Ave Maria (which does have a law school, but not on campus-—in Naples, many miles away).


2 posted on 03/28/2016 10:33:38 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Academiadotorg

So I did that. Sent one to Catholic University. Guess what ? The pretend Catholic Georgetown pays for a professor that spends all his time suing Catholic for Muslim and Gay stuff. Seems no way to get away from PC leftism socially or Dem Communism business-wise.


3 posted on 03/28/2016 10:34:57 AM PDT by major-pelham
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To: LS

I agree with you. There doesn’t seem to be any conservative college which has a decent engineering/applied physics school.


4 posted on 03/28/2016 10:43:09 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: Academiadotorg

State legislatures need to totally overhaul state universities and colleges and get rid of most anti-American courses and the Leftist propagandists posing as professors.

Education has turned on everything decent and good.


5 posted on 03/28/2016 10:43:51 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Nationalist, Patriot, Trumpman)
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To: Academiadotorg

I’ve gone to liberal universities, so have both my kids... no biggie. We’ve always had political discourse at home, and they don’t swallow any information whole before cutting it up a bit. Most importantly... they are logical human beings, who think first and feel afterwards.


6 posted on 03/28/2016 10:47:01 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Academiadotorg

Parents pay for and students go into debt for the privilege of being brainwashed


7 posted on 03/28/2016 10:50:29 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Academiadotorg

I relocated myself, after two 2/3rd’s years at U of Chicago. They ran me out of money, and also were not the conservatve institution I thought I was entering in the early 1980s with those nice Milton Friedman programs from Harper Library. Some good folks there, and getting involved in the sidewalk counseling in downtown Chicago was quite the experience. I did meet some great students and some talented professors, but enough is enough.

However, transferring to non-gov. money accepting Catholic Christendom College gave me a lot more room to breathe, work and think without the U of Chicago distractions. Options get leaner for grad school and hard sciences.


8 posted on 03/28/2016 10:53:22 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("There is no limit to the amount of good you can do if you don't care who gets the credit."-R.Reagan)
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To: major-pelham

Funny you should mention that, I pointed to Georgetown recently as an example of a college in need of Truth in Advertising. It’s website looks like Bells of St. Mary’s. Its campus does not.


9 posted on 03/28/2016 10:54:26 AM PDT by Academiadotorg
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To: LS

I’m sure Hillsdale is more remote than Heck, but according to the best reports, Heck (at least in its fullest form) is a fairly populated place with many of the latest fashions etc. leading there, or originating there.

I imagine that Hillsdale does have at least a pizza joint within biking distance, and 1400 students together ought to generate some sort of social life.

I can understand the engineering argument though.


10 posted on 03/28/2016 10:57:25 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Dr. Sivana

If you can make it through undergrad with a decent education, you should know enough to identify the best couple of options for grad school and then to figure out how to pick your way through one of them. If you can’t do that, don’t go to grad school.

Hard sciences are a different kettle of fish, but probably an easier one.


11 posted on 03/28/2016 11:00:51 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: arrogantsob

My aunt and uncle regret the day they sent their daughter to college. She won a scholarship at Emory University and actually ended up going to Oxford in England for a year as well. She left home a happy, outgoing beautiful, fun young lady and came back a dour, unhappy, frumpy, bitter and confused. She ended up taking medication for her newly discovered mental disorder which left her a space cadet to add with all the other parting gifts university life left her. That was nearly fifteen years ago and my aunt is still heart broken at losing her daughter to liberalism.


12 posted on 03/28/2016 11:09:43 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: LS

Yep. My daughter wants to be a speech therapist. There aren’t a lot of colleges with a communication disorders degree, and she got a full tuition scholarship.

Unfortunately, she us hanging with all the liberals. Her boyfriend is crazy liberal. However, I’m thinking he isn’t going to last much longer. He didn’t spend Easter with her, and she was very sad.

When she comes home for summer, she’ll get back involved with the college group at our church. I think they will help straighten her out.


13 posted on 03/28/2016 11:14:10 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: bkopto

Texas A&M is fairly conservative and has some of the best engineering programs in the country.


14 posted on 03/28/2016 11:15:43 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Academiadotorg
Seventy or eighty years ago, Georgetown was probably a traditional Catholic university. One hundred and twenty years ago, Princeton was a conservative Presbyterian university. Colleges have a history of drifting leftward, as do families and foundations. The great-great grandson of Theodore Roosevelt supported Barack Obama. Warren Buffett is the son of Howard Buffett, a very conservative Nebraska congressman. Foundations set up by conservatives J. Howard Pew and Henry Ford are extremely liberal.
15 posted on 03/28/2016 11:16:33 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: bkopto

Texas A&M comes close.


16 posted on 03/28/2016 11:17:44 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: bkopto

We didn’t know we were solving the “liberal” professor problem at the time, but we did. Here’s how:

Took his AA at local community college during high school years. We found, at least at our local community college, the courses were taught by conservative profs. Even had a couple retired Generals teach History and American Government.

So by the time he was at the State University, all Gen Ed credits were done and it’s hard to get “political” in an engineering, hard science class, finance, etc.

Grad school (business) was full of conservatives, and although our son did his grad school right after his bachelor’s...a lot of his fellow grad students were years older then he was, and most were conservative.

The best part about having them do their Gen Ed classes at a local cc is that they come home every evening and you can talk about any liberalism that might sneak in one of the gen. required courses.


17 posted on 03/28/2016 11:24:34 AM PDT by Dawn53Fl
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To: Katya

Same here. Me, my husband and our son all went to the same liberal college. Son is a rock-steady conservative. Of course, he went to college after he got out of the navy. DIL was a lib while in college. Actually, she was just a head full of much who didn’t know anything about politics. She’s fully conservative now that she’s paying attention and thinking for herself.


18 posted on 03/28/2016 11:54:38 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: Resolute Conservative; luckystarmom

Thanks for the heads-up!


19 posted on 03/28/2016 11:58:43 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: luckystarmom

Clemson is good too.


20 posted on 03/28/2016 1:15:08 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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