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To: butterdezillion

Your reading of details is sloppy. No copy of voter registration was every asked for although you mentioned it was.

> “This thread is about Bill Still claiming that Cruz’s team deliberately told their people to break the law to commit voter fraud.”

Similarly, you are reading into the clear reporting what you will. The video does not say what you said above. The video clearly shows that the Cruz Team mailer said “You can still make your voice heard and vote absentee for Ted. Here is all you need to do:”

The Cruz Team mailer was not in compliance with state law. The law code is presented “All completed ballot application forms should be filed with the appropriate election officer [County Clerk’s Office] no later than the Thursday before election day.”

The above state code allows for verification of proper voter registration.

There was no voter registration verification in the Cruz Team mailer. The Cruz Team mailer clearly exhorts voters to go online and print a ballot, complete it and hand it over to ‘someone who is participating in the caucus’.

This mailer is clearly noncompliant with Utah’s state law.

I will say it again, you are now with the Romney camp, that is the GOPe. You made your choice, live with it.


72 posted on 03/24/2016 12:29:15 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

Only voters already registered can print off the precinct ballot, and the ballot has an individual voter ID. This doesn’t fall under absentee voting; it falls under one of the ways for registered voters to vote (same-day balloting).

From http://utah.gop/wp-content/uploads/2016-Caucus-Rules-FINAL.pdf (which says exactly the same way that Cruz told his people to do - with only already-registered voters even ABLE to print off a ballot, so Still’s claim of Cruz encouraging law-breaking fraud is NOT true):

“Same Day Balloting
A precinct-specific ballot will be available on the precinct website 24 hours before
the neighborhood caucus election convenes. Candidates on the ballot will be any
registered Republican who pre-registers to run for a precinct office or delegate
seat. The ability to print the online ballot will only be available to a registered
Republican from that specific precinct. The ballot will not include the individual’s
name, but will include their unique Voter ID, number or another suitable unique
identifier at the top of the ballot. Individuals are only allowed to vote using their
unique ballot. No copies of ballots are allowed.
The Precinct Host and ballot counters will verify that only unique same-day
ballots will be cast at the neighborhood caucus election by verifying that no
duplicate Voter ID numbers or other identifiers are present at the top of the
ballots. The ballot will accommodate write-in candidates. The ballot will not be
signed, to protect the right to a secret ballot. The ballot will be folded and inserted
into an envelope, the envelope will be sealed, and the voter will affix his
signature across the envelope seal. A copy of a government-issued ID – front
and back – will accompany the envelope.
A person may bring to caucus no more than three (3) ballots on behalf of others.
The person to whom the voter’s envelope and copy of the ID is entrusted to shall
be responsible to deliver the envelope to the Precinct Host and to destroy the
copy of the ID or to return it to the voter. The State Party will assume no liability
for the information on the copy of the voter’s ID.
The Precinct Host and ballot counters will verify the identity of the voter using the
copy of the voter’s ID to ensure the individual meets all regular requirements for
participation in that precinct’s neighborhood caucus election. The Precinct Host
and ballot counters will verify the signature on the envelope against the signature
on the copy of the government-issued ID, but will not take possession of the copy
of the ID. Once the signature is verified the ballot will be certified.
The ballot will be used in all rounds of voting.
A voided blank copy of the ballot will be posted conspicuously inside the precinct
location throughout the registration and meeting.


74 posted on 03/24/2016 1:07:23 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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