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To: butterdezillion

The rules were written for this year by the Utah GOP, so there is no ‘legal’ or ‘illegal’ about it. However, the rules must comply with the state’s laws insofar as voter registrations, so there are issues of ‘compliance’, not ‘legality’. There were no checks for verifying registrations, therefore, the rules were not in compliance with the state’s laws. Questions of legality would only be brought up if the copies of applications and IDs were still available for review, which they are not.

There was no requirement to provide a copy of voter registration, so you are wrong on that as well. The Utah GOP asked for a copy of a government issued ID, not voter registration. That is noncompliant. The copies were collected and handed in without ever checking the ID copies against the person handing them in, open invitation to fraud.

Because there were no checks of voter registrations, Fake persons could easily be created. A dog could have been registered and it would not have been discovered. Because the ID copies are not available, any fraud has been kept from view unless one of the selected gatherers kept copies and blew the whistle. But in that Mormon network, no one blows the whistle and survives to testify.

Cruz’ mailer exhorted people to hand in ‘copies’ of ballot form applications and govt issued ID. The mailer was without a caution that the voter must be legally registered with the state. Therefore, Cruz’ instructions were not in compliance with the state law that required the party to instruct only legally registered republican voters how to obtain and turn in a ballot. Asking for a copy of government issued ID in liew of verifying ID is not in compliance. Checking government issued ID against a government database was not done.

This episode of party run caucuses is egregiously flawed. No matter who were the candidates, this arrangement is not in keeping with election integrity.

The real story is that Romney backed Cruz and set up his Mormon power players to run the caucuses. You are ignoring that aspect.

You are now with the GOPe. I want nothing to do with them and that goes for you too.


67 posted on 03/24/2016 11:54:26 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

Did Cruz urge his people to break the law?

It could well be that the caucus sites did not check voter registrations, though the comment by Still’s very source said he “got his credentials”. At http://www.sltrib.com/home/3639379-155/how-to-vote-in-utahs-gop it says:

“Those who would rather fill out a paper ballot, or have the opportunity to vote for state delegates, can attend the traditional caucus meetings that begin at 7 p.m. You can find your location through the party’s website or through caucus.utah.gov. Each person will need to bring a state-issued identification or some other means to verify that you live in the area. If you are not a registered Republican, you can change your party affiliation at the meeting.”

Sounds like a bureaucratic nightmare, and the system could probably have used it to conduct fraud. I don’t know; that’s not the subject of this thread. This thread is about Bill Still claiming that Cruz’s team deliberately told their people to break the law to commit voter fraud. That’s a far different thing than saying the establishment rigged it so THEY could commit fraud on Cruz’s behalf.

If you want to defend what Bill Still said, then you need to prove that Cruz’s team knew that what the AP said about how the caucus was to be carried out was actually illegal, and that the whole caucus was actually illegal.

If Bill Still can’t prove that, then what he reported was factually incorrect. Should he retract an incorrect report? (I think this is the 4th or 5th time I’ve asked you that).


69 posted on 03/24/2016 12:06:08 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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