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1 posted on 03/24/2016 6:58:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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(((YAWN)))


2 posted on 03/24/2016 6:59:22 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a dump, sewer or "refugee" camp. It's my home.)
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Why have primaries then? Just conduct a bunch of these hypothetical match-up polls on each candidate, and run the one that polls best.

(Yes, I’m being sarcastic.)


4 posted on 03/24/2016 7:01:35 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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More BS from the spineless, limp wrist sell-outs in the pundit class. The same types warned Americans that Ronald Reagan was going to lose to Jimmy Carter back in 1980. That election was a disaster...for Carter. This election will see Trump taking at least 45 States in huge landslide.


7 posted on 03/24/2016 7:02:54 AM PDT by captain_dave
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Who knows. The old RAT media even has freepers at each other’s throats.


8 posted on 03/24/2016 7:03:07 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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Dig deep into the polling methodology and here is what you find:

SELZER & COMPANY Study #2136 1,000 U.S. adults ages 18 and over March 19-22, 2016 Margin of error: ± 3.1 percentage points Weighted by age and race.

A poll of Adults. Really? Why waste our time with this sort of nonsense. Polls of Likely Voters are meaningful. Nothing else is. And polls of "Adults" are truly meaningless.

9 posted on 03/24/2016 7:03:22 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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Who the hell would rtust a poll by that RINO/Democrat/Indenpendent lunatic?

The depths to which the estblishment gangsters will sink inan attempt to continue to enjoy money from the crony capitalist establishment in return for legislative favors is nothing short of amazing. Most of them are multi-millionaires already.


11 posted on 03/24/2016 7:04:14 AM PDT by ZULU (Trump is the answer. The Establishment is the problem.)
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To who claim to be Conservatives allowing the MSM pick their candidates for them AGAIN! And allowing polls to dictate who is best. Romney was suppose to beat Obama according to polls but he lost big!


12 posted on 03/24/2016 7:04:22 AM PDT by 4rcane
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When the Democrats can actually get people out to vote in their Primaries, maybe someone will believe this horseshit.


14 posted on 03/24/2016 7:05:35 AM PDT by The Toll
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Kasich got beat in AZ by Rubio


15 posted on 03/24/2016 7:06:14 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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Same pol would put Satan ahead of jesus.


16 posted on 03/24/2016 7:06:40 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Third Secret of Fatima has Russia saving Christianity by nuking apostate USA and EU.)
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I take it with a grain of salt.


20 posted on 03/24/2016 7:10:31 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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The GOPe is so transparent it’s pathetic. This week’s narrative in promoting an open convention is to publish polls showing only Kasich is electable. Yesterday FOX, today Bloomberg. I’m sure there will be a few other polls out in the coming days with this narrative. Mitt was electable too....


21 posted on 03/24/2016 7:11:38 AM PDT by usafa92 (Trump 2016 - Destroying the GOPe while Making America Great Again)
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Remember President Dukakis? He was up 55 to 38 over GHWB in July 1988
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/26/us/dukakis-lead-widens-according-to-new-poll.html


22 posted on 03/24/2016 7:12:45 AM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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Simple. Because people get their news and information from Facebook, Google, Twitter, Instagram, CBSNBCABCCNNNPR, NY/LA Times, FOX etc. ALL controlled and manned by Leftists.

Most people are ruled by fashion, entertainment, and vanity. Madison Avenue / Hollywood consumers.


23 posted on 03/24/2016 7:13:32 AM PDT by ecomcon
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The most interesting aspect of this poll is the strongest GOP candidate (or at least the current leader) loses big to Hillary, yet the weakest GOP candidate beats Hillary. I think this says a lot about who the Dems would like to face in November. They know Trump is strong. Cruz may or may not do well against Mrs. Clinton. Kasich would get destroyed by her.


24 posted on 03/24/2016 7:14:29 AM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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Makes no difference until after this damn primary is over. And no, not Kasich.


25 posted on 03/24/2016 7:20:17 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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“Only John Kasich beats Clinton in the hypothetical match-up”

No surprise there. Kasich is basically Hillary without an indictment hanging over his head.


26 posted on 03/24/2016 7:20:43 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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We were given the same lying bs with Reagan versus Carter. The lying mediots told us for months that Carter would defeat Reagan as per the documentation below!

Special Report
How Carter Beat Reagan
Washington Post admits polling was “in-kind contribution”; New York Times agenda polling.
By Jeffrey Lord – 9.25.12
Dick Morris is right.

Here’s something Dick Morris doesn’t mention. And he’s charitable.

Remember when Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan in 1980?

That’s right. Jimmy Carter beat Ronald Reagan in 1980.

In a series of nine stories in 1980 on “Crucial States” — battleground states as they are known today — the New York Times repeatedly told readers then-President Carter was in a close and decidedly winnable race with the former California governor. And used polling data from the New York Times/CBS polls to back up its stories.

Four years later, it was the Washington Post that played the polling game — and when called out by Reagan campaign manager Ed Rollins a famous Post executive called his paper’s polling an “in-kind contribution to the Mondale campaign.” Mondale, of course, being then-President Reagan’s 1984 opponent and Carter’s vice president.

All of which will doubtless serve as a reminder of just how blatantly polling data is manipulated by liberal media — used essentially as a political weapon to support the liberal of the moment, whether Jimmy Carter in 1980, Walter Mondale in 1984 — or Barack Obama in 2012.

First the Times in 1980 and how it played the polling game.
The states involved, and the datelines for the stories:
· California — October 6, 1980
· Texas — October 8, 1980
· Pennsylvania — October 10, 1980
· Illinois — October 13, 1980
· Ohio — October 15, 1980
· New Jersey — October 16, 1980
· Florida — October 19, 1980
· New York — October 21, 1980
· Michigan — October 23, 1980

Of these nine only one was depicted as “likely” for Reagan: Reagan’s own California. A second — New Jersey — was presented as a state that “appears to support” Reagan.

The Times led their readers to believe that each of the remaining seven states were “close” — or the Times had Carter leading outright.

In every single case the Times was proven grossly wrong on election day. Reagan in fact carried every one of the nine states.

Here is how the Times played the game with the seven of the nine states in question.

• Texas: In a story datelined October 8 from Houston, the Times headlined:

Texas Looming as a Close Battle Between President and Reagan
The Reagan-Carter race in Texas, the paper claimed, had “suddenly tightened and now shapes up as a close, bruising battle to the finish.” The paper said “a New York Times/CBS News Poll, the second of seven in crucial big states, showing the Reagan-Carter race now a virtual dead heat despite a string of earlier polls on both sides that had shown the state leaning toward Mr. Reagan.”

The narrative? It was like the famous scene in the Wizard of Oz where Dorothy and her friends stare in astonishment as dog Toto pulls back the curtain in the wizard’s lair to reveal merely a man bellowing through a microphone. Causing the startled “wizard” caught in the act to frantically start yelling, “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!”

In the case of the Times in its look at Texas in October of 1980 the paper dismissed “a string of earlier polls on both sides” that repeatedly showed Texas going for Reagan. Instead, the Times presented this data:
A survey of 1,050 registered voters, weighted to form a probable electorate, gave Mr. Carter 40 percent support, Mr. Reagan 39 percent, John. B. Anderson, the independent candidate, 3 percent, and 18 percent were undecided. The survey, conducted by telephone from Oct. 1 to Oct. 6, has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

In other words, the race in Texas is close, assures the Times, with Carter actually in the lead.

What happened? Reagan beat Carter by over 13 points. It wasn’t even close to close.

http://spectator.org/articles/34732/how-carter-beat-reagan


27 posted on 03/24/2016 7:21:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I 'm just another low info/stupid & evil/vile/crazy Trump supporter wanting to select my candidate!!)
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Nate Silver has found a 6% average point discrepancy between polls of “likely” vs. “registered” voters—with registered voters underrepresenting actual GOP results. This wasn’t even the common poll of registered voters done at this point in the season (for maximal swaying of voters to Democrat favor)—this was of “adults”—so with approximately 1 in 10 not even legal residents of the US, let alone citizens or registered or likely voters.

Take it with a 50 lb bag of salt.

But yeah, I’ve no doubt that the shameful GOPe effort to paint him as utterly unacceptable is impacting such ratings at this point.


28 posted on 03/24/2016 7:22:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Keep Dreaming!


29 posted on 03/24/2016 7:23:32 AM PDT by angcat (TRUMP!)
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