Posted on 03/21/2016 4:16:58 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
Here’s your shocker for the day:
The neoconservatives are lying.
Now before I tell you how I figured that out — apart from the fact that their lips are moving — I need to begin by parrying any manifestations of Trump Derangement Syndrome.
I do not support or endorse Donald Trump, who is not a libertarian and who appears to have no clear philosophy of any kind. He would no doubt do countless things that I would deplore.
Just like all the other candidates, in other words.
My point is not to cheer for him. My point is that the neocons’ stated reasons for opposing him so hysterically don’t add up.
(1) Max Boot worries that Trump will rule like a “strongman.” Right — quite unlike the restrained, humble executors of the law whom Max has endorsed over the years. In fact, Max has spent his career calling for a strong executive. Now he’s worried about a “strongman.” I’d say that horse has already left the stable, Max. You might want to look in the mirror to figure out how that happened.
Theodore Roosevelt, whom Teddy and his neocon buddies love, issued a whopping 1,006 executive orders (when his immediate predecessors had issued a handful) and treated Congress contemptuously. He said that he, after all, was the unique representative of the American people, so it was his job to implement their will, regardless of what any other body had to say about it.
We can only imagine their response if Trump had said such a thing. In fact, Trump says that executive orders are terrible and that the president should govern by consensus.
Now maybe he doesn’t mean that, and maybe he’d use executive orders anyway. But what if he’d said what their hero Teddy said?
Remember the last time Max, or any neocon, or anyone in the GOP establishment, warned us that Teddy wasn’t a good role model?
Me neither.
(2) Trump is boorish. Oh, sure. Too bad we can’t have more refined candidates like John McCain, who sing, “Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.”
(3) Trump betrays conservative values. This supposedly disqualifies him. To the contrary, hasn’t it been the role of the GOP nominee to betray conservative values?
In 1996, Bill Kristol — who’s just so overcome with concern about the betrayal of conservative values, remember — enthusiastically endorsed Colin Powell for president.
(4) And by the way, just what are these “conservative values”? The leftist project of bringing democracy to faraway lands — the exact opposite of what Edmund Burke (who knew a little something about conservatism) would have recommended? Creating Medicare Part D? No Child Left Behind? Auto bailouts? Bank bailouts? Keynesian stimulus?
Had George W. Bush been eligible for a third term, would the same people who demand Trump debase himself in sackcloth and ashes for his betrayals of conservatism have done anything remotely similar to Bush?
Sure, we’d get the wringing of hands and the occasional anguished newspaper column, but then we’d get the stern lecture that if we don’t vote for Bush, civilization comes to an end.
See what I mean? Something is fishy here.
The alleged reasons for disliking Trump do not match the neocons’ actions. Therefore, they are not the real reasons.
Know what I think the real reasons are?
(a) They don’t trust him on foreign policy. He makes fun of their interventions and says the world would be much better off, and we’d be a lot richer if none of it had been done.
Now it’s true, here as elsewhere, that Trump is not consistent. He’s now calling for ground troops against ISIS, for instance. But his primary message is: we have too many problems at home to be traipsing around the world destroying countries. This is not music to a neocon ear.
(b) They can’t control him. He isn’t owned by anyone. He can’t be bought. The neocons, along with the GOP establishment they pretend to oppose, are control freaks. They can’t deal with someone who may be independent of them.
If you want to oppose Trump, knock yourself out. But at least, be honest about it. The neocons have repeatedly endorsed candidates whose deviations from orthodoxy are much more severe than Trump’s. So they’re lying.
As usual.
(b) They can’t control him. He isn’t owned by anyone. He can’t be bought. The neocons, along with the GOP establishment they pretend to oppose, are control freaks. They can’t deal with someone who may be independent of them.
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You nailed it, right there.
THAT is why the GOP is trying to sink Trump. That right there, is why. Because he is not for sale.
It is not just Republicans. Every single part of every branch of our entire government is sold out. Ever part. And the one person who is preparing to actually start fixing things, is currently leading the GOP nomination.
That has a whole huge lot of Americans very enthused, and it also has a whole huge lot of government functionary bureacrats, cra**ing their pants.
Which is a good thing, if you ask me. They have messed up things in America and around the world, for far, far too long.
Donald Trump ping.
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THAT is why the GOP is trying to sink Trump. That right there, is why. Because he is not for sale.
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Exactly. Trump is the buyer of crooked politicians.
The neo-con artists moved from the far left Trotskyite, now the Bernie Sanders wing of the democrat party, when that party started becoming the peace at any price party.
They have been highly successful in conning republicans into thinking that the primary “conservative value” is never ending wars in the Middle East. They have no other “conservative values”, they continue to support such things as: gun control, open borders, gay marriage, abortion, affirmative action, hate-crimes legislation, essentially all liberal social policies that they supported in the democrat party.
They are the prime movers against securing our borders. They say that building a wall is unworkable, and even “racist”, while at the same time they support the wall that Israel has built along its border with the West Bank. Wall for me but not for thee.
Make sense to me. Trump seems plenty conservative to me. So it has too be something else.
There are a lot of ordinary GOP voters who dislike Trump for many reasons, including those dismissed too easily by the author. And those voters have absolutely zero reason to dislike him because "he cannot be bought."
Kings/Emperors/Tsars/Dictators/Despots always get a pucker effect when their power structure is threatened and their subjects seem to be waking up.....
And those reasons of everyday people are?
its from Lew Rockwell
He forgot the main reasons. Trump is serious about building a wall. “Securing the border” is a generality every GOP candidate always says he will do yet somehow GOP presidents never seem to actually do. An American labor market as cheap as China and Mexico is the wet dream of the global corporatists.
The second is “free trade” as codified by tens of thousands of pages of legalese that benefit trans-national corporations at the expense ordinary Americans.
So why doesn’t the author mention these reasons? Could it be because so many doctrinaire libertarians agree with both based on utopian ideals of a world of liberty without borders?
Terrible comment.
Re-read the very short and simple article, he specifically was not talking to or about your dislikes and complaints. He made that clear. Are you being dishonest or were you just not paying attention?
Good news though, now that you know you are dishonest or not paying attention, either one may have led you to have problems with Trump that you don't really have. For example, perhaps you are reacting to him emotionally out of ego, and therefore, just as above, have not paid close enough attention. If you did, you would support or not support one candidate over the other, rather than liking or disliking one candidate over the other.
Watch those emotions! They are not the same as intuitions after careful thought, and paying attention.
Look at what they do. This is a “who is who” of K Street Defense Lobbyists.
The “Caucus for Perpetual War” hate Trump because he cannot be relied on to keep the blood and treasure flowing for them.
Look at what they do. This is a “who is who” of K Street Defense Lobbyists.
The “Caucus for Perpetual War” hate Trump because he cannot be relied on to keep the blood and treasure flowing for them.
“Terrible Article...There are a lot of ordinary GOP voters who dislike Trump for many reasons, including those dismissed too easily by the author.”
He’s talking about the the people that RUN the Republican Party, the GOPe. And he’s DEAD-ON in proving EVERYONE of their points is BS.
You may have your own reasons to dislike him, which is fine - I’m still mad at the Reagan for giving us Amnesty 30 years ago, rather than deporting back then, as he was required to do by law...but that is my reason.
The bottom line is that the GOPe is talking out of BOTH SIDES OF THEIR MOUTH on Trump because they have NOTHING TO STAND ON, regarding their accomplishments...even promises of future accomplishments, like securing the border, RING TOTALLY HOLLOW now.
You don't know for sure?
No, he isn't. Perhaps he proved them to your satisfaction, but that has no relevance to his point. His argument is that they don't really believe the reasons they're offering, which means they are hiding their "true" reason. But his (and your) disagreement with those reasons does not mean that nobody else can believe those reasons.
For example -- I'm not a Republican office holder or official of any kind, and never have been. Yet, each of the reasons he found to be not credible because "the neocons’ stated reasons for opposing him so hysterically don’t add up" are reasons I found perfectly plausible. They did "add up", for me.
And if I (and obviously a lot of other GOP voters as well)could believe them (rightly or wrongly}, so too could the "neocons". Therefore, the entire premise of his article "they really don't believe that therefore there must be some other reason" is flawed, because he hasn't actually proven that they don't believe those reasons. My point is not to cheer for him. My point is that the neocons’ stated reasons for opposing him so hysterically don’t add up.
They can’t control him. He isn’t owned by anyone. He can’t be bought.
#1 Reason right there.
This entire election comes down to ONE THING... ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
Those that oppose it support Trump. Those that don’t support Lying Cruz/Kasickness/Hitlery/Sandinista.
But shhhhhh... It’s a big secret and the media doesn’t want to talk about it.
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